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Title: New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Pat on May 15, 2003, 11:49:57 PM




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Morning Devotional...




I have written to him the great things of My law, but they were counted as a strange thing.                                                      Hosea 8:12


God spoke to Israel through Hosea. Therefore her sins and apostasy could not be excused by ignorance.

In like manner, God has given us His Word, this special revelation from Himself to His people.

How tragic that we neglect it!

As God's people today, let us value and respond to His Word.

How sad that we might be guilty of counting His Word as a strange thing too.
                                                              --Donald Norbie


The book that's called the Bible,
Be sure you don't neglect,
For in every sense of duty,
It will you both direct.[/color]
--A. Lincoln


Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Pat on May 16, 2003, 12:08:57 AM


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Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Etta Sue on May 16, 2003, 12:19:54 AM
A HAPPY 45 YEARS FOR JUDY AND NORM!!!


HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Etta Sue on May 16, 2003, 12:23:25 AM
A Lunar eclipse is going on right now!!!!  Too dark to take a picture with my camera, though. :'( :'( :-[ :( :(

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Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: mieka on May 16, 2003, 01:30:17 AM
Ms Marilyn: - are the children you are teaching to dance deaf.? You know they can feel the music and learn to dance quickly.

Yes Ms Marilyn, they are deaf, and I know they can feel music. - I am excite to share this time with them.

Ms McKenna:  - are you reading to the children now? Do you know sign language?

Ms Judy, it was my wish to teach these children to read,but I was told it will take many months.
They gave me the job to teach them to dance.  It is only a three days camp, so it will be Much more fun.  ;D
Oh, and yes I know the signs quite well.

I am SO sad for your fall Ms Judy, I hope you are ok.

OH MS Ruth: What a wonderful picture, How nice to see you and Mr Mel.


The Devotional:

How sad that we might be guilty of counting His Word as a strange thing too.  :-\

Please forgive me, but I do find MANY of these words a strange things to do. I know many are Gods test of faith. but I do see them as strange many times.

Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Sonifo on May 16, 2003, 01:39:10 AM
I just come in from taking a picture of the lunar eclipse. Go check it out in the photography section.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: mieka on May 16, 2003, 01:42:24 AM
Ms Soni, why do they say it is a "lunar" and not a Moonar?
silly words.  :-\
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Jane Walker on May 16, 2003, 01:45:11 AM
;D  8) ;D  8) ;D
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Sonifo on May 16, 2003, 01:51:33 AM
Quote from: Mieka on May 16, 2003, 01:42:24 AM
Ms Soni, why do they say it is a "lunar" and not a Moonar?
silly words.  :-\

hahahaaha...I don't know why they call it lunar.  

My whole family except for lila mae was outside watching it.  God is so good.  He gave us rain today and then a rainbow and now the lunar moon.
Praise God for his wonderful works!!!
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Jane Walker on May 16, 2003, 01:58:11 AM
luna is the Latin word for moon ... sooooo lunar means of or like the moon ...  8)
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: mieka on May 16, 2003, 02:01:02 AM
 ;D Hi Ms Jane,  

But we try to learn to speak in English... Not Latin.

and I like Moonar more.  :-\


It was my hope to see Mr Anthony tonight. I am SO tired. so I wish you all a very good night.  and a good weekend too.
I hope everyone is safe.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Jane Walker on May 16, 2003, 02:39:41 AM
I agree, MIEKA, I think I like moonar better, too!   :D
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Anthony on May 16, 2003, 05:36:38 AM
Good morning to everyone.  Thank you all for praying for my friend Nigel.  What a man; I am sure that you would all love to meet him.  We were speaking together of the things of the Lord and he said that the suffering he is going through is nothing to be compared to the suffering that the Lord has gone through for us.  No matter what situation we are going through, we are comforted by our Saviour.  Thank you again for your prayers.

Pat, thank you for the devotional again.  How do you like these words?

Oh, wonderful, wonderful Word of the Lord, True wisdom its pages unfold;
And tho' we may read them a thousand times o'er, They never, no never grow old.
Each line hath a treasure, each promise a pearl, That all if they will may secure.
And we know that when time and the world pass away. God's word shall forever endure.

That's the first line to a favourite hymn of mine.

I hope everyone has a great day today.  A particular thought goes to Judy and Norm today and I hope you have wonderful time celebrating your 45th Wedding Anniversary.

God bless all,

Anthony.

Meika, if you stay up to speak to me, you would have to stay up until the early hours.  You need your rest sister :)  I am so pleased that you are able to help out with your dance lessons and using your sign language.  God bless you in this.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: mercychild on May 16, 2003, 07:36:34 AM
Good morning everyone.  Sorry I've missed posting for so long.  We've actually been really busy here and I haven't had much time to be online at all.  I wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing and say a quick hello before I dash out the door to work.  Actually I won't be dashing anywhere, I hurt my ankle last night.  But it should be ok after keeping it wrapped for the day.  Well, I must be off.  God be with you all.  Jen.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Pat on May 16, 2003, 09:07:11 AM

Good Morning Everyone!

I'm still fighting this crazy summer cold.  I think winter time is the time for colds--not now!   ::)

It's wonderful to see you, Jen!  We've all missed you so much.  I'm so sorry about your foot!  That's not a nice injury to have to go to work with.


Anthony, I love that hymn and I haven't heard it for years.  It's sad how many of our older hymns are not being sung now.

I have it set up and will post it in a few minutes and we can all sing it together!
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Pat on May 16, 2003, 09:07:25 AM








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Words: Fanny Crosby, circa 1886.
Music: Ira D. Sankey


"The Word of the Lord endureth forever." 1 Peter 1:25


Oh, wonderful, wonderful Word of the Lord!
True wisdom its pages unfold;
And though we may read them a thousand times o'er,
They never, no never, grow old!
Each line hath a treasure, each promise a pearl,
That all if they will may secure;
And we know that when time and the world pass away,
God's Word shall forever endure.

Oh, wonderful, wonderful Word of the Lord!
The lamp that our Father above
So kindly has lighted to teach us the way
That leads to the arms of His love!
Its warnings, its counsels, are faithful and just;
Its judgments are perfect and pure;
And we know that when time and the world pass away,
God's Word shall forever endure.

Oh, wonderful, wonderful Word of the Lord!
Our only salvation is there;
It carries conviction down deep in the heart,
And shows us ourselves as we are.
It tells of a Savior, and points to the cross,
Where pardon we now may secure;
For we know that when time and the world pass away,
God's Word shall forever endure.

Oh, wonderful, wonderful Word of the Lord!
The hope of our friends in the past;
Its truth, where so firmly they anchored their trust,
Through ages eternal shall last.
Oh, wonderful, wonderful Word of the Lord!
Unchanging, abiding and sure;
For we know that when time and the world pass away,
God's Word shall forever endure.






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Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Larry Hanna on May 16, 2003, 10:02:29 AM
Hi everyone.  Just back from our weekly Friday morning coffee at the Senior Center here in our little town.  There were only 8 men their today but we had a nice time visiting.  This is a very compatible group of men that have been meeting on Friday mornings for over 7 years.  I just learned this morning that one of the men, Tom, who has been very ill for the last several weeks and is currently in the hospital with pneumonia, will be coming home today or tomorrow but the doctor has told his wife to contact Hospice.  Sure doesn't sound good for him.  He is a wonderful Christian man and this is so sad.

I am happy to say that I feel much better today.  I think it was the medicine yesterday as by about 2:30 yesterday afternoon I was feeling better and we went out to eat last evening.  We have a rather full day planned today as at noon time will go pickup some medicine and have something to eat, then go to the other Senior Center for a PC User's Group meeting.  I will come home and rest awhile and then we plan on meeting a couple at a Chinese restruarant this evening if I feel up to it.

Judy, I also want to wish you and Norm a very happy 45th anniversary.  I am sure glad you were not hurt badly by the fall and can imagine how frightened you and Norm were as I remember when you were hospitalized so long.  You are an amazing person and an inspiration.

Pat, another good devotional said in few words but with a full meaning.  Anthony, I see the hymn you quoted and that Pat put up the words and music for was written by Fanny Crosby, who wrote so many wonderful hymns.  

Sonya, am looking forward to seeing your pictures of the eclipse (mooner or lunar) ;).  Mieka, I think that many of the English words have Latin roots.  English is a very complicated language with many words being spoken the same way but having different spellings and meanings.  

Jen, it is good to see you posting again and I hope your ankle feels a lot better after being bandaged for awhile.  Sprains can be hard to get healed up so hope it wasn't a really bad sprain.

Marilyn, sorry to read about your having to return the camera for if it wasn't what you ordered and wanted then you certainly did the right thing.  

Once again I want to express my appreciation to each of you who have been praying for me or thinking about me.  I think I will be fine and I believe I was very fortunate not to have my third heart attack when my bypass completely blocked.  God is good.  

Hope everyone has a good day.  
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Anthony on May 16, 2003, 10:13:21 AM
That was so wonderful Pat to see the words and music of the hymn posted.  Thank you so much for that.  I have read the words often, but have never heard them sang anywhere for some reason.

Jen, what a bonus to see you posting today.  We have all sorely missed you.  I am sorry to hear about your ankle and I hope it gets better soon.

God bless,

Anthony.

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I just noticed Larry and I were posting at the same time.  Hi Larry, I am so pleased to hear that you are feeling better.  Praise the Lord for that.  Your Senior centre sounds like a great thing for you all and hope that your computing goes well.  Have a great day today.

Anthony.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Pat on May 16, 2003, 10:36:40 AM

Anthony,
we used to sing that hymn in church quite often as I grew up.  I really like the words.


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Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Pat on May 16, 2003, 10:42:12 AM


Great to see you home, Janet!!!



Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Papa John on May 16, 2003, 10:45:34 AM
Good morning.  I thought I was here early enough but already we are on the second page.  Anthony and Pat that is a nice song.  I don't think I am familiar with it.  

Happy Anniversary Judy and Norm
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Tomorrow we drive over to Oak Ridge for the wedding.  Weddings are happy times.  Both our granddaughter, Rebekah, and her groom, Will,  are faithful and devoted Christians.  Those of you who have grandchildren understand how much we love them and pray for their happiness.

To someone who asked about whether I have the pain medicine, I do and everything is going to be fine,

A good devotional today.  Unfortunately many people think God's word is strange.  But it must not be strange to us.  I will add two passages which I think we would do well to think about today.

Rom 1:16-17  I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.  For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: "The righteous will live by faith."  (NIV)

2 Tim 3:16-17  All Scripture is God-breathed   (inspired of God... KJV)  and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,  so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. (NIV)

Good to see everyone.  

--- Papa John    ;D        

 
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Pat on May 16, 2003, 10:51:29 AM

Thanks so much, Papa John, for reminding us of those two verses.  How wonderful and precious the Word of God is to us who are Christians and children of the Lord Jesus Christ.

I'm glad that the pain is easing somewhat and that you'll be able to enjoy the wedding.  We'll all look forward to seeing the photos!

Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Marilyn on May 16, 2003, 10:58:49 AM
Good Morning;
First thing I have to do this morning is get a book ready to mail to Judy,  go to the Post Office and the bank before I go to work.

Great devotional this morning Pat. and Papa John thank you for your additions.

I willreturn later I have things to do for now.

Marilyn
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Cami on May 16, 2003, 12:12:59 PM
Good morning, everyone! Pat, that is a great devotional today! Papa John, your additions really made me do some thinking, too. Marilyn, I meant to ask how your bit finger was doing? Lots better by now, I hope. I wanted to thank you for leading me here to this list; you ALL are so nice. Pat and Sonifo, I am sorry that I forgot to say thank you for your assistance, but you are appreciated. I wish many more to the couple having the 45th anniversary. I hope that God blesses all of you today.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Pat on May 16, 2003, 12:18:17 PM

Hi Cami!

We're all so happy to see you posting too.  Just do it over and over and over and pretty soon, you'll just be so experienced at it!




Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Marilyn on May 16, 2003, 12:22:31 PM
Cami: My bit finger is all well now. but it sure was sore the first 24 hours. I am so glad you made it here and got help in posting. I told you That you would like this site.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Pat on May 16, 2003, 12:37:01 PM


I see you Jane!  How's Nita?  I've been wondering where she is.  I hope she's doing better.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Jane Walker on May 16, 2003, 12:55:49 PM
Hi PAT!  Nita's fine ... busy with family and not on line too much these days.  I seldom see her and haven't even had any email connection lately.  Actually, Monday evening, when she called and invited me to go with her to watch the sunset [she had something on her mind she needed to talk over with me, is why],was the first time in a long time that I'd even seen her.   I know she's doing well, though, just wanting to be "quiet"    ;)
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Janet on May 16, 2003, 12:57:27 PM
HAPPY 45TH ANNIVERSARY, JUDY AND NORM!!  AND MANY MORE!

Whew!  I'm tired this morning, as it was a lot of work moving all of Curtis's stuff from his 6th floor dorm room down to our van and his car.  It took many, many trips up and down---but thank God for elevators!  (Even though Darrel and I got stuck in one of them for a while! When I told Curt, he said "Yeah, that happens a lot."

I told him he had everything in the world in that tiny room except SPACE.  They had to be pretty organized to ever find anything, they were packed so tight.  His roommate was a slob, and lazy, too.  We got there at 10:30 and Jeremy was still in bed asleep, and didn't get up until 12:45---he had a test at 1:00.  Curt said that wasn't anything new, that if Jeremy had morning classes, he just didn't bother to go.  I don't think he will be back in college next year!  And for sure, he will not be Curt's roommate.  Curt's best friend from high school is transferring to K State and they will room together.  They are working together this summer, too.

There was terrible weather around this area last night as we drove home.  We only got into the rain and wind; but Liberal got hit with tornadoes, and quite a bit of the business section was destroyed.  We have many alarm systems in Liberal, the bulk of our customers are there, so we are very concerned about them.  Hugoton was spared, but one house West of town was damaged.  We have heard from the owner of one jewelry store in Liberal, and he said the power is off for the entire city.  Many light poles are broken off, power lines in the streets, etc.  Darrel says no use going today, but he will go Monday and see what can be done to help.  I plan to go with him.

I am so far behind today I think I'm ahead!  Better get busy!  See you all later!
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: joyce robson on May 16, 2003, 01:13:18 PM
Hi to all,

Sitting at my desk waiting for my hubby and grand daughter to pick me up to go to Penna.

Windy out and I am looking at the "whirly gigs"falling from the maple trees. All the dogwood trees are loosing their pretty flowers and the sidewalks and streets look like a lovely pink flowery cloud.

My grand daughter wants to play tennis this weekend ; so I said OK.  went to KMART and got a beginner's racquest and now one of the guys at work is showing me how to hold it and how to "lop" at the ball ???

We are having a taco night at the club house and my Grand daughter is thrilled.  Her favorite--tacos.  We are suppose to bring an American shared dish ; so when we get to Penna. she wants to cook up "honey barbecue chicken wings."  Can't get any more American than that ,
right??

I wish I had Etta with me or one of you other marvelous cooks to whip up an Apple pie or Apple crisp.

Maybe I will have to go play Tennis tomorrow because of all the eating that we will be doing tonight.

If windy weather would slow down, we may be out fishing in the boat on Sunday.

She can't wait to see the wild life animals there,
especially the deer in our yard.

Definately will take pictures and guess what I think I may be able to get them sent to you.

Take care and as always,

Love in Christ,
Joyce

Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Pat on May 16, 2003, 01:20:23 PM

Great to see you back, Janet!

Joyce, I'll be looking forward to seeing the photos!

Thanks Jane.  Please give her my best.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Janet on May 16, 2003, 01:22:58 PM
MY GRANDMOTHER warned me she planned to paint the door and doorjamb of her 1970s-style duplex. Arriving for a visit, I noticed she had posted a sign "Wet paint. Still tacky."
   Underneath, someone had added: "Actually, the '70s are back in style now."

--
Borrowed from Reader's Digest
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: joyce robson on May 16, 2003, 01:27:48 PM
While waiting for my ride to Penna. : I wandered to Charles Stanley site.

What a great message --quite lengthy--but I wanted to share it with you all.

Hope this is the right place to post it:

Following Christ
Matthew 4:18-23

Follow Me;

It is such a simple statement, but it requires a great commitment on the part of the believer. When we heed Christ;s call, we must recognize several requirements in following Him:

Sensitivity to the Holy Spirit.

God has given us a permanent, indwelling source of guidance and strength: the Holy Spirit. Recognize His role as Teacher and Helper in your life. (John 14:26)

Service.

We cannot follow Christ without serving others. Remember, Christ came as the ultimate expression of godly service, and we must model our lives on that example. (Matthew 20:26)

Sacrifice.

We must give God what He asks of us or we cannot live within His will. The successful Christian life is not a matter of being ;first; instead, it involves a willingness to be last in the eyes of the world. (Mark 9:35)

Self-denial.

A faithful follower of Christ is more concerned with others than with himself. And, standing for Christ in a fallen world requires a bold separation of self from the world;a step that many refuse to take. (Matthew 16:24)

Suffering.

We cannot serve others without sharing in their suffering. True, no one likes to suffer, but even more than that, no one likes to suffer alone. (Philippians 4:10)

There is no specific ;recipe for living the successful Christian life, other than walking step-by-step with the Savior and allowing Him to live in and through us. (Galatians 2:20)

Ask God today to help you stay in step with Jesus Christ.


Bless you all,

Love in CHrist,
Joyce
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Carol on May 16, 2003, 01:54:39 PM
Joyce:  Your post is much appreciated.  Thanks

Pat Scott:  No, we are not moving.  In fact, we are doing a little work around here enjoying it so much.  Why do you have a summer cold when it is only springtime here?  

Ruth:  I like your new picture.

Judy:  I will tell Don - he isn't having much artheritis pain - he is having hand surgery in June.  So happy that the fall did not do any great damage to you either.  Congratulations on 45 years.  The book you mentioned - Cassie Bernal (spelling?) - our oldest son lives in the house the Bernal family lived in when Cassie was involved with the wrong teens.  When there was all the media hype, I was staying there and loads of flowers appeared all the time - from Larry King show to Oprah, you name it so we had a neighbor who knew the family take the flowers over to the Bernall home.  I always wonder if I am staying in her bedroom.  I don't believe that the wild teens are in the neighborhood - we haven't seen any.  Since three sons live in Littleon, all of them were acquainted in some way with family members and so forth and one lives close to the high school.  Everyone dreads when it is mentioned over and over on television and particularly by politicians.  

Etta Sue:  Don loves the Chines buffets too.  

Larry:  Sorry about your friend, Tom and what is to come for the family.  Good to see that you are better.  Carol


Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: joyce robson on May 16, 2003, 02:14:00 PM
Thanks, Carol.

I was wondering if I should keep it here or maybe Pat will move my post to Manna for the Soul.

Leave that "major" decision to Pat--our Leader.
Love the girl; she is so thoughtful--the best.

Janet--looks like you beat me and my hubby be a few months--our 45th will be in November.

Time sure flies when you are having fun !!!

Take care, all.

Grand daughter called ; van is already and they are on their way to pick me up.

Back around Monday night.

Love in Christ,
Joyce
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Janet on May 16, 2003, 03:27:09 PM
People of character have both the strength and grace to give their
best to the world.

   To their enemy they give forgiveness.
   To an outsider, understanding.
   To a friend, their heart.
   To their children, a good example.
   To their mates, faithfulness.
   To their parents, respect.
   To themselves, gentleness.
   To all people, kindness.

Strong roots produce a strong character. And a strong character is
needed to give one's best to life. When the tree's roots are well
tended, the leaves will be full and healthy.

Steve Goodier

Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: mieka on May 16, 2003, 04:13:26 PM
Hi Everyone  ;D

Ms Robson:
Sacrifice.
The successful Christian life is not a matter of being ;first; instead, it involves a willingness to be last in the eyes of the world.
<-----  ??? so it is ok to know His word is strange, yes?

The Devotional:
How sad that we might be guilty of counting His Word as a strange thing too.

Mieka:  ;D
Please forgive me, but I do find MANY of these words a strange things to do too.

So is it then sad that we might see His word as strange at times?

Or is it ok that everyone will see His word as strange at times, but the ones who believe, will follow them any way???

This Devotional today is a puzzle to me. I need to learn it. :-\

And A Hi ms Janet  ;D
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Etta Sue on May 16, 2003, 04:24:42 PM
I am back home again.  I just about did a bonker this morning.  Ivalou's surgery was at 7am.  I got up at 5am.  Two hours.  I got ready and sat down here at the computer.  I heard a horn blow.  The driver was here.  I forgot we had to get from here to the surgery center and that takes an hour.  Thank God, all I had to do was grab my purse, turn on the security and lock the door!!!  And this is a person that prides herself in NOT being late to anything!!!!

Ivalou got her left cataract out and implant in today.  When we got back, we got in my car and went out to eat.  She said she was a little fuzzy yet from the medicine so she was going home and watch TV and fall asleep.  Just what the doctor ordered.   ;D  Her appointment tomorrow is at 9am.  Maybe I should get up at 6am to have 2 hours before leaving... ??? ???

Janet, glad you got back home safe.

Papa John ~ Have a safe trip to the wedding and back.

Jane ~ Good to see you here this morning.

Joyce ~ Have fun in Pennsylvania playing tennis...

Hi Mieka!!!   ;) ;)  Oh, by the way.  The devotional this morning...My Contemporary English Version Bible stated Hosea 8:12 My instructions for sacrifices were written in detail, but you ignored them.  Maybe that will take the strangeness out .... ;)

Jen, Glad to see you post.  You were missed.

Larry, good to know you are feeling better.  I will have Tom in my prayers.

Carol ~ Maybe we can have Chinese Buffet in Calgary!

Pat ~ Good afternoon....I see you are online.

Marilyn ~ Glad your finger is all better (as Tony used to say).  Can't have a bum finger when typing on a keyboard.   ;)

Sonja ~ I tried and tried for the Lunar Moonar Eclipse but I didn't get it.  I sure hope I can save yours.  

I feel a nap coming on.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: mieka on May 16, 2003, 05:31:24 PM
We have SO many different Bibles now  :'(

And it says in the Bible that whosoever adds or takes away from God's word will be damned.
??? ???

Which one is ok? How do I know it?

Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Anthony on May 16, 2003, 05:45:20 PM
Meika said:

QuoteAnd it says in the Bible that whosoever adds or takes away from God's word will be damned.
Which one is ok? How do I know it?

I am going to have to allow someone else to answer you on this Meika as I know virtually nothing about these things.  

I have been trying to get online all afternoon, but I was unable to get a connection.  It is bedtime for me now and just wanted to say goodnight.  I have read all of the messages, but feel a bit too tired to answer them.

God bless all and I look forward to your fellowship tomorrow.

Anthony.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Al Moak on May 16, 2003, 05:52:42 PM
Mieka - we have many Bibles because the original languages were not English.  They were Greek and Hebrew.  Since English has changed over many years, some people have felt we needed new translations to keep up with the modern English.  I did a special study while at Seminary on the translations, and my opinion, first of all, is that all of the English versions (except the New World version) are really quite good.  The best for accuracy, though, is probably the New King James Version.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Papa John on May 16, 2003, 06:04:03 PM
 This is for Miss Mieta.  If I am Mr. Papa John then you are Miss Mieta.  OK?  Al has answered well your last question so I will try to pick up on your earlier one. ;D

I think the meaning of  Hosea 8:12 is also made clearer in the New International Version as well as the New Living Translation..

Hosea 8:12  I wrote for them the many things of my law, but they regarded them as something alien.  (NIV)

Hosea 8:12  Even though I gave them all my laws, they act as if those laws don't apply to them. (NLT)

In this prophetic book Hosea is saying that both Israel and Judah had turned away from God's word.  This is one of the major messages in the prophets of the Old Testament.

Now, read the devotional again.  It shouldn't be hard to understand.

"God spoke to Israel through Hosea. Therefore her sins and apostasy could not be excused by ignorance.   In like manner, God has given us His Word, this special revelation from Himself to His people.   How tragic that we neglect it!   As God's people today, let us value and respond to His Word.   How sad that we might be guilty of counting His Word as a strange thing too." ---Donald Norbie

This shouldn't be hard to understand.  Today we have the gospel.  We have the New Testament.  It is sad when people reject it.  Why is it sad?  Because,  "How shall we escape if we ignore such a great salvation? This salvation, which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed to us by those who heard him.  Heb 2:3  (NIV)

--- Papa John    ;D          <:))))><<

 
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Pat on May 16, 2003, 06:13:07 PM


I've been so busy in the Photos, Challenges and Creations with a Brush forums while you've been busy in here!

Oh!  Thanks so much Al and Papa John for the great throughts!  I appreciate what you add in here each day.

Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Marilyn on May 16, 2003, 06:19:54 PM
Thank you Papa John for you explainations, I always look forward to reading what you both say. Personally I have 7 translations of the full Bible and  2-3 new Testaments in other translations. I like to read them all at times for a better understanding of what I have a question about. I also use Mathew Henry's commentary  and the Strong's Bible Dictionary in english, greek and hebrew. If I am still having a prolbem.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Etta Sue on May 16, 2003, 08:53:21 PM
Thank you Papa John for a great explaination.

When I was first reading the Bible, I didn't understand some of what I was reading.
I was really getting frustrated because I was reading where the Holy Spirit is to help us understand.  I did some serious praying and my niece gave me the Contemporary English Version.  Now I understand it.  I know the KJV is probably the most accurate but, for me, when I read it, it is like reading an insurance policy.  Just words that have no meaning to me.  I get my CEV out.  Read it and then read KJV again and it is understandable.  

I believe that whatever version that gives you a better understanding is what you should read.  

And I do like to read different versions.  I have KJV, NIV, NLT and CEV.  I read all of them.

Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Jane Walker on May 16, 2003, 09:04:27 PM
Etta Sue, you said:
QuoteI know the KJV is probably the most accurate but,
but I'm going to say "it was probably accurate for that time ... when it was translated into English for King James.  There has been so much change in the language and the meaning of words since then though... Each translation is an attempt to bring the language of the Bible into a more easily understood version.  Actually, if you could get hold of the Amplified Bible, you would have a much closer look at the meaning of the original language of the scriptures.  It is just what the title implies "amplified" ... many words, sometimes, are needed to fully explain the Greek.  

Y'all take care ... I really don't have a lot of time to be sitting here but I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to stick my two cents worth in the pot!    :P
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Jeanne Lee on May 16, 2003, 09:57:11 PM
I have several translations, too.  And I often use three or four of them for the same passage, especially if something sounds obscure.  Seeing the same verse stated in a slightly different way can usually clear it up for me.  Jane, I agree the Amplified is really helpful by adding parenthetical explanations.  I was led to that from watching and listening to Joyce Meyer - it's the one she uses all the time and I like to follow while she's teaching.

Gene's daughter Vivien and her husband Richard are going to be visiting this weekend, but instead of staying with us as originally planned, they'll be staying again in that house with the beautiful fireplace.  It's just a few mintues away from us and they'll be here for dinner and will go to church with us on Sunday.  
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Pat on May 16, 2003, 10:03:19 PM
Personally, I love the King James Version.  There's a poetic sound to it when reading and I use the New King James when I have a problem with it.

I really liked it when we used to read in unison in churches but now with all of the various versions, that's almost impossible to do.


It's nice to see you, Jeanne!  

Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Marilyn on May 16, 2003, 10:03:51 PM
Well I am here changing the subject. After I got home from work I changed into shorts and at T-shirt and laid down to rest for about 30 minutes, then got up and fixed me a big salad of mixed greens, onions and tofu with greek salad dressing. That was sure good. It is 6:30 PST and still 85 F. At work today I banged my right knee cap on the desk and it sure does hurt. That is the knee I have had problems with in the past, it seems like every time I fall- I fall on that knee. :-\ :-\ Well I am going to catch up on my reading here and will be bak later.
marilyn
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: karmat on May 16, 2003, 10:30:36 PM
Hello everybody....

Sorry I haven't been around much.  I've been busy busy busy busy.  This real world stuff kinda gets in the way sometimes, ya know what i mean?

I find the translation discussions interesting.  Here in the buckle of the Bible belt (hahahaha), there are churches that have put King James in their name.  Emmanuel King James Baptist church.  (That is just an example).  They literally believe that if you read anything besides the KJV, you are headed straight to hell.  I heard a preacher say one time that we needed to be reading the original Bible, and all these others (say this next word with a sneer) translations were just fakes.  I so wanted to stand up and ask him if he knew how to read Greek and Hebrew.  :-[  I don't want to knock anyone's intelligence, but the KJV is a translation too, you know what I mean.

Having said that, I am like Pat.  I like the poetic nature of the KJ, but I now use a NKJ as my primary source because it is easier to understand and I can cover more ground if you will.  I also found that it as handier when teaching youth, etc.  I like the NIV as well.  I have a "Contemporary Parallel Bible somewhere"  It is about 4 feet thick (just kidding, but it is big) and it has 4 versions next to each other.

Anyway.  I do think that some translations are better than others, but if you use one of the common ones (KJV, New KJ, NIV, etc.) I don't think there is a great deal of difference.  (Karmat recognizes that some would see her as an apostate for that remark.)

Have a good night.  I am in and out adn may post again! ;D
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Marilyn on May 16, 2003, 10:49:42 PM
I forgot to tell y-all that I carry my KJV in the car and use it at church. My pastor uses the NIV and Peggy uses the NKJV. I like my KJV because it has the pronunciations of those names that everyone I know mispronounces. I like the way it flows if you know what I mean, but in my every day reading I prefer a different translation. My KJV is so marked up and underlined that you would think I have had it for years actually only 3.I wore out my NKJV that was given to me 5 years ago when I got saved and the Pastor of my old church gave me a new one. It is very nice and I used to carry it around in the box but someone at church gave me a Bible cover.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Etta Sue on May 16, 2003, 10:58:19 PM
Now I am going to have to get an Amplified version.... ;)

I like these discussions.  My church uses the NIV on the overhead.  It is really neat when you hear the words from the minister and see the words on the overhead.  The minister prints his sermon out and the couple on PowerPoint put emphasis on the overhead that the minister has highlighted.  Almost like everyone has a handout of the sermon.  Also the sermons are taped and free audio tapes are offered for shut-ins, etc.  

I wish they would tape the music but there is something about copywrites that our church won't audio or video music.  When we have the words on the overhead, we have to put the copywrite symbol and its information somewhere on the bottom of one of the pages.  

TMI....too much information....sorry!
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Marilyn on May 16, 2003, 11:47:39 PM
I think I am going to say good night. I have a busy day tomorrow. I have my weekly cleaning to do, more packing, pick up commodities,drive into Apple valley to Walmart to get another pair of jeans and some TP and dog food, then we may be having choir practice because we didn't practice last night. Our main guitar player was still on vacation.
I didn't sleep allthat well last night so will go to bed early tonight. I usually go to bed around 9 pm and watch TV in there until 10- or so and cuddle and love on the dogs for awhile. I love on them all the time but they like to snuggle with me before we go to sleep. ;D

So Good Night All.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: karmat on May 17, 2003, 12:37:13 AM
night night all.

catchyounstomorrow!!
Title: Re:New Every Morning~May 16
Post by: Pat on May 17, 2003, 12:43:59 AM

Goodnight to all who have retired and Good Morning to all who will be getting up soon!

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