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Title: Bible Characters and Places A-Z
Post by: Pat on November 09, 2004, 08:19:35 AM
Lets try a new game.  I found this on another Christian site and they're having fun with it.

This time, give us characters in the bible in alphebetical order.  Must name the individual, then a short synopsis about them and where they are located in the bible.

Highlight your first letter by putting [ b] and [ /b] (without the space) around the first letter..

First ones a given....

Adam.  First man God created.  Disobeyed God and caused the fall of man into sin.  Found in Genisis.
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Post by: Pat on November 09, 2004, 08:20:50 AM

And here would be a second one...




How about

Bathsheba...

Woman who tempted David    2 Sam.
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 09, 2004, 12:27:52 PM
C ain.  First son born to Adam and Eve.  Also the first murderer.  He brought an offering to God from the produce of his farm while his brother, Abel, brought an offering from the firstborn of his herd.  God was not pleased with Cain's offering and Cain became angry and killed his brother.  Genesis 4
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Post by: Pat on November 09, 2004, 12:33:56 PM
David -

Killed a giant,
became a King...
was smitten to his sox,
when his eyes did catch that bathsheba fox  ;D  ???  ::)
(Carmen lyrics)



Have no idea who Carmen is but got this in an email.  LOL

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Post by: Jane Walker on November 09, 2004, 01:40:10 PM
E ve

First woman. God formed her from Adam's rib. Deceived by the serpant in the Garden.  Genesis 3




Pat!  You don't know who Carmen is?     :o
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Post by: Pat on November 09, 2004, 05:46:33 PM

Felix....

Governor of Judea which the Apostle Paul was tried before.



QuotePat!  You don't know who Carmen is?

Nope!  Has my education been sadly neglected?

;D >:( :( :o
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Post by: Judy McKenna on November 09, 2004, 06:25:37 PM
G oliath is the giant that David slew
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 09, 2004, 07:35:26 PM
H am ... son of Noah  Genesis 5:32
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Post by: Pat on November 09, 2004, 09:58:17 PM

Isaiah
The son of Amoz, who was apparently a man of humble rank. His wife was called "the prophetess".
He had two sons, who bore symbolic names.

Isaiah probably lived to its close, and possibly into the reign of Manasseh, but the time and manner of his death are not specified in Scripture or recorded history.
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Post by: JudyB on November 09, 2004, 10:19:51 PM
J Jeremiah

The weeping prophet.

Pat Carmen is one of the most wonderful Christian Contempory singers, that even Jack enjoyed listening to! ;D
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Post by: Pat on November 09, 2004, 10:24:02 PM
Jack?  I don't think so!  LOL At least not that I remember.  I have all his tapes and CDs that he listened to.
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Post by: Pat on November 09, 2004, 10:25:09 PM

Kenaz

In the Old Testament, Kenaz was a son of Eliphaz and a grandson of Esau. He was an Edomite leader (Genesis 36:11, 15, 42).
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 09, 2004, 10:29:40 PM
K ohath ... son of Levi, one of the 12 sons of Jacob ... or 12 tribes of Israel ... Genesis 46:11
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Post by: Pat on November 09, 2004, 10:31:21 PM
Lazarus

Brother of Mary and Martha, became sick and died...Jesus raised him from the dead.
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 09, 2004, 10:33:48 PM
M ary and M artha ... sisters of Lazarus    ;D
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Post by: JudyB on November 09, 2004, 10:35:33 PM
Yes he would come down to talk to John and we would have Carmen playing,  He always enjoyed listening to him.

L Leah Leah was Jacob's first wife, mother to 8 of the tribes of Judah.
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Post by: Pat on November 09, 2004, 10:36:28 PM
We're looking for "N"  NOT "L"

Keep up there, girl!

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Post by: JudyB on November 09, 2004, 10:38:08 PM
Naaman

He was told to dip[ into the River 7 times to cure his leprosy.
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Post by: Pat on November 09, 2004, 10:40:18 PM
Obadiah
A Levite who superintended the repairs of the Temple in Jerusalem under Josiah (2 Chron. 34:12).
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Post by: JudyB on November 09, 2004, 10:41:33 PM
Peter a corageous desciple of Jesus
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Post by: JudyB on November 09, 2004, 10:42:48 PM
Queen Esther

She was responsible for saving the Jewish nation
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 09, 2004, 10:46:57 PM
R ueben   Son of Jacob and Leah .. Genesis 29:32
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Post by: JudyB on November 09, 2004, 10:49:22 PM
Samuel

He was the prophet after Eli.
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Post by: Pat on November 09, 2004, 10:58:25 PM

Thomas

Thomas was one of the 12 apostles of Jesus Christ. In the Synoptic gospels and the Book of Acts he is listed with the other apostles.
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 10, 2004, 02:20:26 AM
U rijah -- the Hittite, husband of Bath-sheba      2 Samuel 11:6
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Post by: JudyB on November 10, 2004, 10:59:43 AM
Seems we are stumped on "V"
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 10, 2004, 11:39:26 AM
V ashti ... Queen, wife of Ahasuerus.  She was deposed because she displeased the king. The king sent out for "replacements" and this is how Esther became the salvation of her people ... Esther.
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Post by: JudyB on November 10, 2004, 11:59:27 AM
Way to go Jane!!!

I have a Bible with an index of Bible names, for the life of me a cannot find it.  I always use a different Bible, it has no name index.
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Post by: Pat on November 10, 2004, 12:14:29 PM

Ermmm...

3 Wise men 

At the time of Jesus birth, following a star they came to Jerusalem from the east, in order to worship the King!
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Post by: JudyB on November 10, 2004, 09:15:55 PM
Ok we are stumped.
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 10, 2004, 09:19:02 PM
yup ... DUH ... can we just skip X ?
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Post by: Pat on November 10, 2004, 10:20:29 PM
Yep, go on to "Z"

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Post by: JudyB on November 10, 2004, 11:54:51 PM
Zaccheus

Was a wee little man, and
A wee little mans was he
He climved up into a syccamore tree
For the Lord he wanted to see
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 11, 2004, 02:19:20 AM
Abel ~ Son of Adam ... slain by his brother Cain  Genesis 4:2,8
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Post by: Pat on November 11, 2004, 02:37:39 AM
Barabbas

Prisoner released by Pilot instead of Christ
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 11, 2004, 02:42:55 AM
Caiaphas ... high priest in the time of Christ.  Mt. 26:3
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Post by: Pat on November 11, 2004, 08:13:43 AM
Delilah

Tricked Samson into telling her the secret to His strength.
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 11, 2004, 03:00:36 PM
Eli ~ a judge and high priest.  1 Samuel and 1 Kings
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Post by: Pat on November 14, 2004, 09:55:47 AM
Festus - Also called PORCIUS FESTUS, the Roman governor of Judaea, and Successor to Governor Felix
Acts 24:27
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Post by: JudyB on November 14, 2004, 11:26:38 AM
Goliath was a giant who David killed.

I got an interesting comment from a friend concerning David.  The giant would have never been killed if David hadn't gone into the valley.  The valleys of out lives can be the areas of greatest victory.
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Post by: Pat on November 14, 2004, 11:40:55 AM

Herod

The Herods were an Edomite line of kings, who, under Rome got control of Judea shortly before Christ.
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 14, 2004, 11:53:52 AM
Ishmael ~ Son of Abraham and Hagar  Genesis 16:11
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Post by: Pat on November 14, 2004, 11:57:33 AM
Jehoiachin
(Jeconiah), king of Judah, 597 BC

Reigned 3 months.
II Chronicles 36:8-10
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 14, 2004, 12:08:31 PM
Korah ~ grandson of Kohath.  Kohath was the son of Levi.  Numbers 16: 1, 19, 32, 40; 26:9; Jude 1.
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Post by: Pat on November 14, 2004, 12:29:54 PM

Lot

Abraham's nephew.  Lot foolishly chose the Plain of Sodom and then Abraham chose Hebron.
Genesis 13
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Post by: JudyB on November 14, 2004, 04:19:07 PM
Malachi

He was a prophet of the Lord.

Malachi 1:1  The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 14, 2004, 04:22:13 PM
Noah ~ builder of the ark
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Post by: Pat on November 14, 2004, 05:50:05 PM
Obadiah

- predicted that the Edomites would be "cut off forever," and "be as though they had not been"

Obadiah 10, 16 and 18
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 14, 2004, 07:21:01 PM
Peter ... a fisherman called by Jesus to be His disciple ...
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Post by: Pat on November 14, 2004, 09:08:59 PM

Quirinius

(The Enrolment of Quirinius)

This was a census of the Roman Empire.  Roman historical records place the Enrolment of Quirinium in A.D. 7, which was 10 or 12 years after Jesus was born.

In recent years ancient papyri have been found from which it is learned that Quirinius was TWICE governor of Syria.
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 14, 2004, 09:25:56 PM
Rahab of Jericho, received the spies, and is named among the heroes of the faith in Hebrews 11.
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Post by: Pat on November 14, 2004, 10:49:21 PM
Stephen

Stephen and Philip were great preachers.
Acts 6:8-15
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 14, 2004, 11:34:57 PM
Thomas ~ one of the disciples of Jesus ... some refer to him as "doubting Thomas" but I believe he just wanted to make sure! 
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Post by: Pat on November 16, 2004, 11:04:31 AM

Uzziah

(Azariah), king of Judah.
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 16, 2004, 11:47:03 AM
Vine ~ Christ the True Vine ... John 15
           Israel  compared to an unfruitful vine Ps.80:8; Is. 5:2; Je. 2:21; Eze. 15:6; 17:6;19:10....
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Post by: JudyB on November 16, 2004, 01:45:09 PM
Wonderful

Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 18, 2004, 10:09:41 PM
X    gets skipped, if I remember correctly.   ::)


Yeshua~Our wonderful Lord!
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Post by: Pat on November 20, 2004, 12:31:03 AM
Zephaniah

- prophesied in the days of Josiah.




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Post by: Jane Walker on November 20, 2004, 01:50:56 AM
Abigail ... wife of Nabal, became David's wife.  I Samuel 25:3 (and more).
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Post by: JudyB on November 20, 2004, 08:24:42 PM
Benjamin one of the sons of Jacob and Rachael. The youngest son of Jacob and a blood brother of Joseph.
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 20, 2004, 11:15:53 PM
Cornelius  A godly Roman centurian.  Acts 10
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Post by: JudyB on November 21, 2004, 09:48:21 AM
Deborah

Deborah was a prophetess and judge.

Judges 4:4  And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time.
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 21, 2004, 12:11:02 PM
Eli, a judge and high priest.  I Samuel  and I Kings
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Post by: JudyB on November 29, 2004, 09:58:36 PM
Felix

He was the governor of Judea. Paul gave his defence before him.
Acts 24:10

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Post by: JudyB on November 29, 2004, 10:04:00 PM
I have found the Bible that has the Bible Names.  Interestingly there are no names listed in it for "w", "X", or "Y" .  So lets get this one going again.
Title: Re: Bible Characters A-Z
Post by: Jane Walker on November 30, 2004, 11:37:41 AM
Aaron, son of Amram, the first high priest.



Judy, you have the advantage.  :D  I don't have a bible like that, so I have to depend on my concordance. 
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Post by: WinterRose on November 30, 2004, 10:14:01 PM
BETHSHEBA
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Post by: Jane Walker on November 30, 2004, 10:49:30 PM
Caleb ... son of Jephunneh; one of the 12 spies.  Numbers 13:6
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Post by: Kreative4Jesus on December 01, 2004, 07:10:25 AM
David, the King!!

K4J
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Post by: Samantha on December 01, 2004, 08:13:33 AM
Esther
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Post by: Matt on December 01, 2004, 05:52:44 PM
Felix
Acts 23
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Post by: Jane Walker on December 02, 2004, 02:10:18 AM
Gabriel, an angelic messenger   Daniel 8:16  and Luke 1:19, 26
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Post by: WinterRose on December 02, 2004, 10:52:59 AM
HEROD ... the one that want BABY JESUS to DIE  :'(
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Post by: Pat on December 02, 2004, 11:37:37 AM

Hmmmm....  we jumped from "F" to "A"!!!  LOL

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Post by: Pat on December 02, 2004, 11:42:18 AM
Isaac

Ishmael was about 15 years old when Isaac was born
Genesis 21
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Post by: Jane Walker on December 02, 2004, 12:08:46 PM
I don't know how that happened, Pat.  I remember we were at a standstill at V when I left for Spokane.  When I got back Judy had posted that we should go on to A again.    ???

Jacob -- Son of Isaac, twin brother of Esau.     Genesis 25:26
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Post by: Pat on December 02, 2004, 01:02:28 PM

Funny...  Here's "F"

http://christianphotographers.com/community/index.php?topic=3657.msg66231#msg66231

Oh well...

I'm learning lots about Bible Characters anyway.  Are you all?  Some I've forgotten about.

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Post by: Pat on December 02, 2004, 01:07:44 PM

Korah

Korah, jealous of Moses, sought to usurp his leadership.  Moses went straight to God.  And God settled the matter in no time.  The earth opened, and the rebels went down.

Numbers 15 to 19

(from Halley's Bible Handbook)


We could add Places to the title of this game.  We could have Characters and Places.

What do y'all think?

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Post by: WinterRose on December 03, 2004, 08:51:55 PM
LOT
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Post by: Jane Walker on December 03, 2004, 09:38:48 PM
Miriam  Sister of Moses; (Exodus 2) regarded as a leader in Israel.(Micah 6:4)
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Post by: Pat on December 03, 2004, 09:47:27 PM

Anyone?  Comments?

We could add Places to the title of this game.  We could have Characters and Places.

What do y'all think?


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Post by: Jane Walker on December 04, 2004, 01:19:43 AM
Sounds good to me, Pat....   'Cause then I could enter this one:

Nazareth

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Post by: Pat on December 04, 2004, 11:29:00 AM


Onesimus

the name of a slave who belonged to Philemon.
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Post by: Skief on December 04, 2004, 05:36:58 PM
Pyrrhus Acts 20:4 Father of Sopater, the companion of Paul during his return trip through Macedonia on his 3rd Missionary Journey (You knew I had to include missions).
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Post by: Pat on December 04, 2004, 06:05:07 PM

Quirinius

- was governor of Syria. 
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Post by: Judy McKenna on December 04, 2004, 08:00:47 PM
R uth...daughter-in-law of Naoimi (sp)
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Post by: Pat on December 04, 2004, 08:31:45 PM
Samson

- of the tribe of Dan, on the Philistine border, he was, before birth, appointed of God to be Israel's deliverer from the Philistines.

Judges 13-16
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Post by: joyce robson on December 06, 2004, 12:48:27 PM
T homas

The one who thought me "when in doubt--go back to the basics (the Bible)"
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Post by: Jane Walker on December 06, 2004, 01:57:17 PM
Ur of the Chaldees ... The country from which Abraham set out.  Genesis 11:31
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Post by: Pat on December 06, 2004, 02:05:26 PM

Vashti

Esther 1 - Queen Vashti deposed
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Post by: joyce robson on December 07, 2004, 01:21:11 PM
wall of Jericho


' Joshua saying, march the people around the wall of Jericho for six days


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Post by: Pat on December 07, 2004, 01:41:07 PM

Xerxes

King of Persian Empire from 486-465 BC  (same as Ahasuerus, mentioned in Ezra, Esther and Daniel)

Nave's Compact Topical Bible

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Post by: Bob is okay on December 20, 2004, 01:40:21 AM
Yeshua, the Aramaic name of Jesus.
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Post by: Pat on December 20, 2004, 01:57:34 PM


Zedekiah


2 Kings 25

Zedekiah (597-586 B.X.) was last king of Judah.


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Post by: Bob is okay on December 20, 2004, 02:21:18 PM
Antichrist
The Antichrist is a person or other entity who, beginning as a pseudo-Christ, soon becomes the embodiment of evil, and utterly opposed to God, Jesus Christ, and the Christian church. The name "Antichrist" is mentioned only in the New Testament book of 1 John
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Post by: Pat on December 20, 2004, 05:25:40 PM


Baruch

Baruch, Jeremiah's scribe, was a man of prominence, with high ambitions.  He was recognized as having great influence with Jeremiah

Jeremiah 43:3

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Post by: Bob is okay on January 03, 2005, 04:44:12 AM
Calvary  The hill outside Jerusalem on which Jesus was crucified.

Luke 23:33
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Post by: Kreative4Jesus on January 03, 2005, 04:35:43 PM
David
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Post by: WinterRose on January 04, 2005, 01:16:10 PM
ESTER
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Post by: Pat on January 04, 2005, 02:40:19 PM
(Don't forget folks to give us a scripture and sentence about your Character or Place!) ;D

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Post by: Pat on January 04, 2005, 02:44:24 PM

Felix

Acts 24

Felix had been Roman Governor of Palestine for a number of years.  He knew something about Christians, for there were multitudes of them under his jurisdiction.
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Post by: Kreative4Jesus on January 06, 2005, 06:40:25 AM
Galieth a Giant who believed in his own strength & not the strength of God's awesome power & might that killed him.

1 Sameul 17:26, 34.
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Post by: JudyB on January 09, 2005, 07:27:02 PM
Herod

He was one who tried to destroy Jesys by destroying the baby boys under 2.
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Post by: WinterRose on January 10, 2005, 01:54:29 PM
ISSIAH
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Post by: Marilyn on January 11, 2005, 10:35:14 AM
Jeheremia the weeping prophet
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Post by: Pat on January 12, 2005, 01:26:29 AM


Khorsabad

In 1842, Botta discovered the ruins of the Sargon's palace in Khorsabad on the north edge of Nineveh with treasures and inscriptions showing him to have been one of Assyria's greatest kings.

Isaiah 20:1
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Post by: joyce robson on January 12, 2005, 01:56:26 PM
Lazarus

raising him from the dead proves how our GOD reigns over all the false
prophets..

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Post by: Marilyn on January 12, 2005, 05:50:47 PM
Matthew was a tax collector named Levi
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Post by: WinterRose on January 15, 2005, 05:10:49 PM
Nehemiah was the son of Hacaliah. ( Nehemiah 1:1)  
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Post by: Pat on January 15, 2005, 10:39:56 PM




Othniel

Othniel, of Kiriath-sepher, in the extreme south part of the land, saved Israel from Mesopotamians, invaders from the northeast.

Judges Chapter 3

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Post by: Pat on January 20, 2005, 05:24:40 PM

Parah

(heifer)

a city in Benjamin (Joshua 18:23 )
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Post by: Pat on December 26, 2005, 09:47:37 PM

Ruth--a book in the Old Testament
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Post by: Marilyn on December 26, 2005, 09:48:47 PM
Samuel a Prophet and 2 books of theold testament
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Post by: Pat on December 26, 2005, 09:50:08 PM

Thomas--the one who "doubted"
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Post by: Jane Walker on December 27, 2005, 12:39:10 AM
U zziah ... King of Judah also known as Azariah.  Struck with leprosey because of pride. 2 Chronicles 26:16-23
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Post by: Pat on December 29, 2005, 09:49:22 PM



Vash'ni

...the first-born of Samuel as the text now stands. (1 Chronicles 6:28) (13); but in (1 Samuel 8:2) the name of his first-born is Joel. Most probably in the Chronicles the name of Joel has dropped out: and Vashni is a corruption of vesheni , and (the) second."