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Started by Jane Walker, October 28, 2004, 08:36:06 PM

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Jane Walker

I hate to bother y'all with my concerns when there are so many other, more dire, needs among you, but I am feeling very, very tired -- to near exhaustion -- with all the pummeling I have been enduring from the IRS over that past 14 months. 

Just when I feel I can breathe again, today's mail brought yet another blow concerning the Offer In Compromise I submitted last January!  These threatening and embarrassing letters and notices arrive every few weeks and seem to drag on and on. With all the other stress factors in my life this past year or so, I feel as if I've been beaten to a pulp.  I usually am strong and can rise in faith and overcome these things but, today, it just seems too much to handle. 

I guess what I am asking is that you help hold up my hands for the victory over this.  I need strength to endure.

Thank you....  Jane 

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Marilyn

#1
Jane you can call on  me to be Joshua or Caleb as I am holding up your arms in this situation.

Our gracious Father in Heaven I beseech you at this time to give Jane that strength that surpasses all understanding. The strength and endurance that only YOU are able to provide. Christ alone is our strength. I come to your throne Father in behalf of my sister, she desperately needs you to  give her hope, faith, and endurance. Boost her morale while you are at it Lord. Give her that extra bit of power Lord that she needs toget throught this situation with the IRS. Father I further pray that the IRS will lose all the  paperwork that has Jane's name on it and will not bother her any more.In Jesus Name Amen
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Jenny



Heavenly Father...

Overturn it, oveturn it to Your glory I pray and give Jane Your peace, that peace which passeth all understanding.

In Jesus Name,
Amen.

Carol

Jane:  I pray that your load will lighten as all of these concerns are lifted.  Carol

Judy McKenna

Oh Jane  I am echoing Carol's prayer.  I am so sorry that you have all this to endure.  Please know that I will be praying for you as well.

Hugssssss to you! :-*
"I am too blessed to be stressed".

Larry Hanna

Jane, so sorry you can't get a resolution to this problem.  I pray that you receive the strength you need to endure and that you will soon get this resolved.

Pat


I'm so sorry, Jane.  I'm praying for you in these days and will continue to do so.

God bless you.

{{{{{HUGS}}}}}

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Jane Walker

Oh, THANK YOU all for your prayers ... I am feeling the release of the tension and God is at work!  My tax attorney (has Power of Attorney for 3 tax years) has always been so calm and tells me "Don't worry about it ..." But sometimes I feel like saying "Yeah, easy for you to say!" 

When this latest stuff came in the mail yesterday I called Jim and he had received a copy of everything as well.  He said he had called the person in Tenn. who keeps sending these forms back, etc.  He said it's just a couple little things she wants clarified so she can close the books on this.  I looked out the information and took it to him this afternoon and he said he'd get it in the mail right away.  He was also going to call the lady again, as well.  He's always told me "They won't take your house or car so you can relax."  He also has felt, all along, that they will forgive the entire amount because I don't have it and will never be able to get it so ......

Today Jim told me "They won't take your house ... in fact they don't want it!"   :D  Things would get a lot worse if they had to find another place for me to live.   :-\  He said they just want to clear this up and close the books.  Well .... you can be assured I let him know that was my hope too!  I believe the Lord has answered these prayers from all y'all and this will be a done deal very soon.

Jim also told me that the "turn around" time that these people had responded was the fastest he had ever known ... usually it can take a couple years!    :o 

Praise God, from whom all blessings flow .... and Thank you, Marilyn, Jenny, Carol, Judy, Larry and Pat ....
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Nita

Jane, this is such good news. I know this had been hard on you.  Yes,  it's been a rough year, huh?  It's so good to know that our Father has already been here right where you're standing now. :)  AND He's already solved it.  And you are His. ;D



Jane Walker

Yes, NITA ... God is soooo GOOD -- ALL THE TIME!  It HAS been a really rough year (or more) but HE has been right here beside me all the time.   :D

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Ruth Ann Bice

Jane, my post got lost, but understand that I, too, am praying for you. How wonderful to think of this network of prayers - almost like the net under a high wire flyer - when we can't go any longer on our own and must fall - that net is beneath us to hold us up. To keep us from falling. praise God for prayer - the power of prayer - the power of our Father who hears our prayers.


Ruth Ann
...his compassions fail not.  They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness.


Jane Walker

Amen, Ruth Ann!   

Just as I was feeling a bit of relief last night I received word about Bryan.  He is out of the Army, but the circumstances are not good ... Now our prayers need to refocus toward him and his mother.  God knew I needed the load lightened a smidge before laying this on me ... I have learned, though, that the "load" really isn't mine to carry.  I quickly take it to Jesus and roll it off on Him.  <Then get ready for the next one!>   ;)
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Jenny

#12
Jane.  I am so glad re the IRS...

oh dear, I too am having this same experience, just as things seem to be smoothing over along comes another one.... Our Redeemer is strong, sister.

"When the enemy comes in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord will lift up a standard against him."  Amen. Amen.

joyce robson

#13
Hi,
Did you ever contact the tax advocate's office.?

They are suppose to intervene and stop these annoying, even
threatening letters.

In fact, the IRS is suppose to be more friendly and if they know
a tax advocate is assigned to your case--they must stop contacting
you directly.

Good news about Bryan.

I will keep you in my prayers.

Take care and as always,

Love in Christ,

Joyce

Jane Walker

Joyce~I contacted everyone I could think of to contact!!  The Tax Advocate just kept telling me to write another letter explaining my circumstances, etc.  Finally it came to where I was told to take it to tax court .... That's when I phoned this Tax Consultant in town.... I initially just wanted to know how much help I could get for $35 (the advertised fee for the first 1/2 hour).  Over the phone this very gentle, reassuring voice said "What's the problem?"  As I began to try to condense it into a few sentences he said "I can help you with that."  He said there are forms and things that they never tell a common taxpayer but that he knew and that he could talk with the IRS about whatever I needed done.   To top it off .... THIS MAN HAS NEVER PRESENTED A BILL!!

I mentioned, once, that I felt I owed him some money and he just shrugged and said "You don't owe me anythig."  I think believe he is an angel!   :D
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Marilyn

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joyce robson

Oh, how wonderful, Jane.

Pray that that same angel will help me .....

Good news,

Keep up the faith.

Joyce

Kreative4Jesus

It looks like I got in on the tail end of this.  I know I serve an awesome God!!  And that he answers prayers & I have a great testimonial in regards to what I call "The Lord As My Witness."  I'll have to tell you about it later!!

K4J

Pat


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Kathy

I'm just reading this prayer request today and want you, Jane, to know that you are very much in my prayers concerning this IRS situation and your son, Bryan.  Someone e-mailed me a Bible passage (Romans 11:33-36)that spoke to me when things seem to overwhelm me.  I seem to forget that my heavenly Father is all-knowing and all-caring.  When things are not going good, I have friends to call on for prayer, His Word to meet whatever my needs are and the unfailing guide of His Hand as I call to Him.  I love you,......... :-*   kathy
Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life.  No man cometh unto the Father but by me.  John 14:6

Judy McKenna

"I am too blessed to be stressed".

Jane Walker

#21
The saga with the IRS continues ... I am just getting tired of messing with this.  It's been over a year now since they first got in touch with me. 

Now I have received notice that I must have detailed reports of what I did with all monies received in the years 2000, 2001, 2002, and 2003!  Their "investigation" shows stuff that has nothing to do with me, and I must refute or explain it by January 3, or all deals for Offer In Compromise are off!! 

I'm not really too concerned, because I do have proof/receipts for most of what they want, and can explain/estimate the rest.  I do not, nor have ever owned a 1999 green van, though!  Nor am I "secretary" to a corporation they think my "husband" owns (Walker & Co.) ... They also think I am Trustee to a Trust that is still active, but that is the Family Trust they have listed at this address and it's who I bought this place from.  I wish I did have all these assets ... I'd very willingly pay them all they are demanding! 

All this "investigation" and demands are causing me to feel like a criminal, but more importantly, I'm afraid it is causing my POA to doubt my integrity and distrust me as well.  I called his office yesterday, after receiving this latest demand and ultimatum, and heard the message that "the office is closed until Monday ... Have a Merry Christmas"   Right! 

Aaaahhhh well .... I guess I will just have to wait until Monday before seeing the attorney.  That will only give us a couple daze to get all this stuff off in the mail to reach its destination by January 3.   

My strength is in the Lord ... but sometimes I just wish it was all over NOW!!   :)
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Marilyn

It isn't surprising Janey that the IRS is so dumb.
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Ruth Ann Bice

Any possibility there's someone using your SSN, Jane?
...his compassions fail not.  They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness.


Sue

I am certainly praying that that is not what has happened to Jane, RuthAnn, but it does sound like a very scary possibility.

Jane Walker

Ruth Ann and Sue~This is, indeed, what seems to be the case -- at least partially.  Last year I asked for a copy of my credit report.  It contained some information about "past due" ammounts on two different accounts that are not mine!  There was an address in Charleston listed for me, as well as mine here in Coos Bay.  Also, and I just noticed this last week, two birthdates! 

I wrote about the errors and they subsequently removed them from my credit report. 

There is, or was, another Jane P. Walker living in this area (Charleston?).  When I opened my bank account the bank officer noted there was a "red flag" for my name ... but then, after checking my birth date and SSN, realized that was someone else.  Another time, when I went to Rite Aid to pick up my prescription, they had records for another Jane Walker ... had to verify mine by birthdate. 

This may play a factor in the IRS "investigation" but I would think they would investigate according to my SSN ... that bit about my being secretary to a "J.R.Walker & Co." should be easily verified if they were searching my SSN instead of name! 

Oh, well, I have most of the verification they have asked for ... and the explanation for the rest ... and will see the tax attorney tomorrow.  Pray that I will have enough to satisfy the IRS demands, and that we can get it all in the mail and to its destination on time (by January 3).

Once this Offer In Compromise is accepted I have to file one with the State of Oregon! 
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Jane Walker

I took what information I had over to the tax attorney (he has Power of Attorney for me for tax years 2001, 2002, 2003) and he is going to fax a cover letter to the OIC office in Tennessee either today or tomorrow (when he gets it figured out) and follow up with mailing the many pages later.  He tells me they "just want to get this all settled, hopefully by January 15."  Well, they don't want this more than I do! 

Please continue to pray that this will be the last of this mess.  I am really becoming weary and would like to get on to other, more enjoyable, pursuits. 

Thanks, Jane
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

joyce robson

Hang in there, Janie,

I , too, know how exhausting these matters can be.

I just give them what they want --bury them in paperwork --
but at least you are showing them that you are trying to
rectify the situation.

This goes a long, long way --tax advocate will be able to
help you better when he has "all" the i's dotted and t's crossed-

Prayers are going out to you --

Take care and as always,

Love in Christ,

Joyce

Kreative4Jesus

Jane,

What a story you have, not that anyone want's it for it sounds exausting.  I remember going to the DMV in California & In the same area where I lived there was someone by my name.  I didn't have anyway of checking them out (no computer @ the time, etc.......).  Nor did it turn into a night mare, like this one.

So, It sounded like it was suppose to be a rap as of January 3rd.  Then I saw that ya had written January 15th, in a more recent letter.  Did you get an extention on gathering information, to put them in their place.

I hope that they bark up the right tree here pretty soon.

K4J

P.S.  Praying4U

Jane Walker

Quote from: Kreative4Jesus on December 28, 2004, 10:20:33 PM
Jane,
So, It sounded like it was suppose to be a rap as of January 3rd. Then I saw that ya had written January 15th, in a more recent letter. Did you get an extention on gathering information, to put them in their place.

I hope that they bark up the right tree here pretty soon.

K4J

P.S. Praying4U

Actually, K4J, All the (pages and pages of) papers are supposed to be in the office in Tennessee by January 3 ... They will then have to sort through them, find what they need, and either refine their "search" or drop it and have it all wrapped up by the 15th.  There's a lot I have left out of the "story" as posted here ... just stuff.   :-\
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Kreative4Jesus

#30
It sounds like a big deal.  Oh, anything but a thrill over blueberry hill.  At a time when ya need a small laugh.

K4J

Jane Walker

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Judy McKenna

Jane:  Perhaps this isn't the place., BUT - did Jinty live in Indonesia at one time?
"I am too blessed to be stressed".

Jane Walker

I'm not sure, Judy ... perhaps someone else can shed light on this for you.
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Judy McKenna

Ohhh - I thought you and Jinty were sisters... now, why did I think that?
"I am too blessed to be stressed".

Jane Walker

I don't know Judy...  I do have a sister who is currently visiting in Oregon (just arrived in Pleasant Hill, near Eugene).  She and her friend will be house-sitting for the whole month of January so I am hoping to be able to meet up with them at least for a while.  We just talked on the phone this evening.  This is my "baby" sister ... she lives in Missouri so I seldom see her any more.
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Pat

Jinty and her sister live in Scotland, Judy. 

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Ruthie


Jane, I will lift you up to the Lord that he will continue to strengthen and encourage you.

Love Ruthie
The Lord is my light and my salvation Whom shall I fear? The Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?  
Ps. 27:1



Jane Walker

Thank you, so much, RUTHIE.  I haven't heard anything since I took all my "evidence" to the tax attorney a couple weeks ago.  The 15th is soon here and that is when the people deciding on my Offer In Compromise said they wanted this wrapped up.   Me too!   :-\
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Al Moak

Oh Father, I pray that all of this trouble may indeed be "wrapped up" today.  I pray You will move the people concerned to be reasonable, to be honest, and to cease persecuting Your servant Jane.  Oh Father, bring her relief, I pray, through our Lord (the Lord of the IRS as well) Jesus Christ.

Jane Walker

AL, I so appreciate your prayers.  I am still holding on .... Now I have a problem with a leak in my kitchen ceiling.  I know it is because the seal around the skylight is leaking.  I just pray I can find someone to fix it before I experience a repeat of a few years ago when my ceiling fell in!!
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Judy McKenna

Jane:  I am praying that someone will come tomorrow and fix that ceiling.
"I am too blessed to be stressed".

Jane Walker

Judy ... a man called yesterday evening and said he'd try to come by today and assess the job.  He is a roofer and a friend of the man who has done other work around here for me.  He didn't make it today, but I am thanking God that he is indeed aware that I need help and I know he will be here at just the right time!
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Jane Walker

Mr. Roofer just left ... He had told me he charged a minimum of $50 any time he had to get up on a roof, but ... I only had 3 $20s and he didn't have change so the total for me was $40!  He put a heavier seal around the skylight and said if it should leak anywhere else he could come back and put a bead of water seal around the glass part.  Anyway .... that's one minor concern taken care of ... Now on to the others........
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Jane Walker

I received a letter from the IRS in Memphis, TN yesterday saying they have closed my offer.  The letter states that I have not provided them with the information they demanded.  I know that we (Jim, tax attorney, has POA for these tax years) sent all the information and the "evidence" the same day we received their last demand.  Which, by the way, had a LOT of erroneous information about me from their search. 

I called Jim this morning and he said the agent called him yesterday and he had become very angry with her but tried to keep from making matters worse by letting her know.  He says he has never come in contact with such a "bureaucrat" with such a don't care attitude.  He says this is probably in my favor, after all, because we now have to refile the Offer In Compromise all over again but it will go to a different agent next time. 

Jim says this person who has been so-called handling my case is "the type of IRS agent they need to get rid of!"  I just feel as if I've been really "buffeted about" for a long, long time.  I feel battered and bruised and now the whole thing has to be done over.  In the meantime, the State Revenue Department is demanding their share of taxes I cannot pay!  If it isn't one thing, it's another.  And tax season has begun, so Jim is snowed under with his paying clients and has to only work on my stuff after hours or on the weekend. 

I would really appreciate prayers for this matter to be resolved, once and for all, and that Jim and those in his office will find strength to get through these next few months with a minimum of problems.  I thank God, every day, for sending me to this very kind man to help me with all this, gratis.

He told me the IRS recognizes that I'm "upside down" as far as allowable income, so they know this debt is uncollectable.  I am about $1700 short of allowable monthly income.   ::) 
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Al Moak

Oh Jane - I'm so sorry you have to go through all this.  Of course we know that our Lord will use it for good of some kind, though.  Praise Him ahead of time for that!  I went through much the same last year. I got into a "tax-shelter" investment clear back in 1984.  The IRS eventually denied it - disallowed its sheltering.  It took them several years to do so.  We got charged the interest on it for that time!  I ended up owing $32,000 on about a $3,000 investment!  I fought and fought, going to my senator, congressman, tax attorney, etc., trying for a compromise, etc. - all to no avail, finally. I ended up last October paying the whole thing off.  It drained our savings to do it, but I just couldn't take it anymore.  I've been trying to recover since, but you can imagine how slow that's going to be when we're on a fixed income!  Oh I pray yours will be accepted this time and that you'll be free of it all finally and permanently.  God is able.  If I ever started a revolution, IRS would be the first target!

Jane Walker

#46
This still drags on ... and on ... and on!!  This week I received notice that the State Department of Revenue has garnished my bank account (they and the IRS already have liens on my property).  Of course, this was immediately after the direct deposit of my Social Security and pension checks, and after I had written checks to pay my bills!  They took everything, which means all the checks are going to bounce (the rent check already did!).  I quickly set about to change all future checks to come to my home address, and then contacted those to whom I had mailed payments to inform them the checks were no good and I would replace them with cashiers checks.  This took care of a couple of my creditors, but I have to wait a few weeks for the one for my home insurance to (1) be notified by the bank (2) send me a cancellation notice and (3) for me to then send payment to reinstate the insurance policy ... red tape, you know!! 

My tax attorney says he has never seen anything like this before, neither has his superior who has been in the business for fifty years!  He says mine is a "hardship case" and they will be working with a revenue agent to get my settlement offers back on track. 

I know that God is in complete control ... He knew this was going to happen and He also knows how it will be resolved ... I just have to continue to wait on Him. 

Through all of this I know that people are being touched and that God will get all the glory. 
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Carol

Jane:  We are all pulling for you!  Peace and comfort for you - take care of your health!

Carol

Marilyn

Jane your faith is amazing. I am praying for you my friend hang in there.
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Judy McKenna

Oh Jane:  I don't understand it all., BUT, I sure hope and pray it all works out to your benefit.  I give you credit for "hanging in there."

Lovingly.....Judy
"I am too blessed to be stressed".

Jane Walker

Thanks, Carol, Marilyn, and Judy!  I really appreciate your prayers.
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Ruth





Jane such terrible stress I have just said a prayer for you.



Ruth
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.  Proverbs 3:6


Jane Walker

Thank you, RUTH ... This is almost becoming a way of life for me now ... never know what's around the next corner.   :-\
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Marilyn

Jane it really bothers me that this doesn't have anything to do with you but is someone elses bill to IRS.

AAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH.


I am praying for you sister.
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karmat

Saying a uick prayer for you today!

loveya

Jane Walker

Thanks, KARMA   ;)

Marilyn
it really isn't someone else's bill.  The IRS audited my 2001 returns and there was an error.  I was unaware of something that I did not report ... that started an indepth search and they have not stopped hounding me since then ... At one point, a year after filing my Offer In Compromise, they said the reason they hadn't acted was because I didn't file a return for 2002.  Well, that was because I didn't have anything to file on.  That's when I learned that "cancelled debt" is also considered income!  They could have told me sooner!!  2002 is when I made settlements with two credit card companies and paid less than the balance to close the accounts.  That part they cancelled is considered income, so I owed for 2002 as well as 2001.  Of course, when I filed returns for 2002 and 2003 (had a refund there) and paid what I owed the State, then Oregon Dept of Revenue got into the act and demanded their money for 2001!  Now, both entities have leins on my property and Oregon has garnished my bank account.

I just heard from my tax attorney and he is recommending I contact someone else ... Looks like I'm on my own from here on.  I have no idea how to go about doing this without his help.  Oh well ... I will proceed as best I can and rely heavily upon my Strength and Provider ... JESUS!!
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Al Moak

Oh dear Jane!  I pray, "Oh Father, You knew all about this from all eternity, and You know the solution and the blessing that can come out of it.  But right now, Father, I just pray, HELP!!!!! Oh bring about the solution now, Father, through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Jane Walker

Thank you, AL ... That's just what I've been praying.  We are certainly in agreement.
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Nita


Jane, it may not be another's bill, but I do believe the reason they started hounding you is because they had that other Jane Walker's info, who is more prosperous than the Jane Walker I know, and so they thought you were lying to them.
Has that ever been corrected with the IRS?    I'm praying for you, you know that.


Jane Walker

#59
You're right, Nita.  As far as I know nothing has been "corrected" by anyone!  There are times I feel so overwhelmed and, at the same time, know there is absolutely nothing I can do about it.  Today the thought of having to pay my bills twice or even three times, plus the $32 the bank charges for each overdraft, really got to me.  I wanted to cry but know that wouldn't fix anything either. 

On top of all this mess I have two daughters who are each struggling with the feeling of being a "horrible mother" and I have nothing to offer them either.  How many times I have had that very same feeling (even without being told that in loudly accusatory tones).  I would love to have someone to talk with, who might offer some insight and spiritual help.  I have no one but Jesus and I am really leaning heavily upon Him at the moment. 

Thanks so much for your love and prayers.
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Kathy

Jane. I will be in prayer for you, also.  I just know you must feel overwhelmed with everything happening. 
Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life.  No man cometh unto the Father but by me.  John 14:6

Jim

Jane, have you contacted your congressman about this?  This sounds to me like something they could solve just to make themself look good.  Meanwhile, I'll hold you in my prayers.  I know how frustrating (and fearful) financial troubles are.

Just remember that our Father is not limited by finances, and that He is teaching you something through all this.  Perhaps you'll be able to help others out in a similiar situation someday and bring God glory.

J

Judy McKenna

Jim - I have often thought along those lines too
"I am too blessed to be stressed".

Jane Walker

Thanks, Kathy, Jim, and Judy Mc.... I am trusting in my Father to work all things out for good ... because I love Him and am called according to His purpose ... I know that, in His time and in His way all this will be resolved and He will receive all the glory. 
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Al Moak

Jane - you know what, I think it may actually be helpful to get in touch with your congressman.  They often have a person in the office who knows just how to deal with the right people to get things done.  Mine was somewhat helpfu, though they were'nt able to get the resolution I wanted and thought I deserved.  For you it could be different.  Hey - it can't hurt!  It can't make it any worse, that's for sure.

joyce robson

Hi Janie,

I agree with Jim and Al .

Get everyone involved that you can!!! Our Heavenly Father is sending
you help; you are just so overwhelmed that you can't see the forest
for trees.!!

I know I am there with you, too,

One thing in all of this do you have an actual figure that needs to
be met?  With all the interest and penalties; the figure you once
had may be different.

When you get the figure; present this to your congressman and
tell them how do I get relief before the interest and penalties
take over the actual first amount.

Someone has to take notice and step in --what about the tax
advocate--call them again and tell them you have no satisfaction
in this matter.

Keep the faith and keep "bugging everyone you can think of in
this matter" 

If anything you will show that you are not going to sit by and
take this any longer--the good Lord wants these problems
out of your sight and mind so you may go on and do HIS business.
The reason you were created for --to give praise and glory to HIS
name and there is no way you can do this straddled with these
financial problems.

Above all, make sure you show the devil the back door--keep telling
him to hit the road and not confuse you in these matters.  Tell
him that you are relying on Jesus Christ, who died for your sins, to
see you through these dark times.

I have done this so many times --I refuse to let the devil steal
the joy of my loving my Heavenly Father and doubting his words.

The devil hits the hardest when you are down but remember the best
thing about being down, the only place you can go is UP and looking
up to the Heavenly Father who only wants the best for you will see
you through.

AND the good news in this is that your daughters will see how you are
handling your situation with faith in HIS love, with strength to put up
the good fight and when you win (and YOU WILL WIN and this problem
will be solved, everyone will see the reason for your faith and strength.

You are not alone,

love ya, take care and as always,

Love in Christ,

Joyce

Judy McKenna

Joyce - you have given Jane some good advice here!
"I am too blessed to be stressed".

Jane Walker

#67
I thank you, one and all, for your advice.  I have not given you detailed information regarding my situation.  Since over a year ago I have had a Tax Attorney/Accountant working with/for me.  I signed over Power Of Attorney for the tax years 2001, 2002 and 2003.  He does all the filing, contacting, refiling, contacting, refiling of forms with IRS and, now, Oregon Dept of Revenue.  He has steadfastly assured me not to worry, that mine is a hardship case, that he knows all the forms, language, and avenues to follow in dealing with these entities.  I haven't a clue, and was facing what I saw as a deadend.  We know the exact amount they are asking for ... and we also know I don't have any of it nor will I ever have it.  My income is below the minimum amount to be called "poverty level." 

I will speak to him about contacting our Congressman, but I believe things are being handled in the best way possible ... there is just so much red tape and we know how the IRS uses intimidation tactics.  It seems to have come down to playing the waiting game with them now.  Which one of us will blink first.  Well, I can't so it is not an issue of how much or when I will come up with the money ... the answer is never! 

Of course, as you know, this the final week of an extremely busy time for tax people.  Jim (my POA) has never charged me a dime, nor will he let me suggest payment, and he does my work "off the clock" from his paying clients.  I can't ask him to do more than he is already and I know this will be resolved.  God knows when and how, but I don't, so I am just "possessing my soul in patience."

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

joyce robson

Hi Janie,

I do understand.

You are dealing with a tax attorney/accountant.

In my dealings the attorney and our accountant couldn't help or were so
swarmed that they delayed my case even more.

I went to IRS office and presented the problem who were to get back to
me  but of course that never happened --only delays with more interest
and penalties adding on.

Then I went to a tax advocate (they absolutely listen to you ) and they
saw the problem immediately and started to work it out.  When intimidation
letters came, call the number and report that you are working with tax advocate
-give their name and phone number--tell IRS to contact them direct)
and IRS has to stop immediately contacting you.

I hope this helps.

Keep the faith --remember HE sees the end results-  our Heavenly Father
can look beyond this mountain in front of you and sees the other side--

a glorious side waiting for you to give praise and honor to HIM for giving you
the relief that you need.

Take care and as always,
Love in CHrist,
Joyce

Jane Walker

Joyce ... I already have been through all the steps you just outlined. There are many offices and you reach a different one every time you call the 800 numbers.  Jim (POA) has been in direct contact, by phone and fax, with the IRS for over a year ... We have filed numerous forms and now have started over.

I mentioned to him about contacting our congressman ... he says they would probably only refer me to the IRS ... Everyone is totally backlogged at this time because of Tax Season, you know.

I found a list of "exemptions from garnishment" and have written to the State Dept of Revenue to challange the garnishment of my Social Security and Pension.  It is possible these funds will be returned to me.  From now on I will have all checks sent to my home address and pay all my bills with money orders or travellers checks as Jim says "until this is settled." 

And, I know it will be settled ... it is just a very long drawn out process.  I originally posted a request for prayer for strength to endure this process. 

Thank you -- everyone -- for your concern and advice.  I really appreciate all of it.  My Father is in charge of my finances as well as my life.  He has promised to supply all my needs -- sometimes I think I need more strength than I have at the time.
   :-\
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Larry Hanna

Jane, sorry to see that this goes on and on and now you have to fight with the State as well. 

With regard to writing to your Congressman it is probably true that his/her office would refer your letter to the IRS.  However, having been on the Agency end in having to answer a lot of Congressional correspondence when I worked, I can tell you that agencies give priority to such referrals and, at least where I worked, we had very strict deadlines imposed to provide a response.  It certainly couldn't hurt anything to seek such assistance as that is one of the duries of the Congressman to respresent the interests of the constituents.


Judy McKenna

Jane:  I don't understand a lot of the terminology...yours is somewhat different than ours., but I know that dealing with government, you run into a lot of red tape.

A few years ago, we were audited.  Why they chose us, is beyond me.  It ended up costing us several hundred dollars more than we originally paid (in income tax, that is).  We have an accountant do our taxes now., as its just so difficult.
"I am too blessed to be stressed".

Ed

Quote from: Jane Walker on April 12, 2005, 01:24:54 AM
You're right, Nita.  I would love to have someone to talk with, who might offer some insight and spiritual help.  I have no one but Jesus and I am really leaning heavily upon Him at the moment. 

Father, I pray for Jane.  Her problems seem so insurmountable to her and to us....but they are not to you.  We know that you know what is going on in Janes life...those money difficulties, those self-doubts, those feelings of being a failure.  We know that you love Jane and we know that you wrap your arms around her...but Father she needs to FEEL that....so I ask Father that you let her know in a special way that you know of her situation....something that only she would know had come from you.

Father I also ask you to relieve her anxiety and her fears....I ask that your Holy Spirit touch her this evening and that she get a good nights sleep...safe in your arms.

I ask all this in Jesus' name
I am a nobody
Telling everybody
There is a somebody
That can save anybody
borrowed from Tom Ramundo

Jane Walker

Fast Eddie .... Thank you, so much, for your prayer .. I really appreciate Christian friends who will stand with me in prayer when my strength seems to wane ... God is in total control of my life and the outcome of this mess ... He knows the end from the beginning and I don't. I have only to trust Him.
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Jane Walker

Today I received a couple phone calls from the Oregon Department of Revenue ... end result is that they have reviewed my challange to the garnishment and will be refunding the money they took from my bank account.  I also found that I had double paid all my bills this month!  Being unfamiliar with "Bounce Guard" I went ahead and paid by cashiers check after the bank had covered the checks I originally wrote and were against insufficient funds -- or an empty account!  Today I went to the bank and took care of all the overdrafts and am now at a positive balance again.  Things are beginning to look up again.  Praise God!
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

karmat


Jane Walker

Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Marilyn

"Good people take care of their animals, but even the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel" Prov. 12:10
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Larry Hanna

Jane, that is great news.  You have your trust in the right place.  Now to hear something positive from the IRS.

Al Moak

One down, one to go.  Is it not evident, though, that God is at work?  As He has done with Oregon, so may He quickly do with the U.S.  Oh Father, I continue to look up into Your Face, to wait on You, and to pray Your mercy on my sister Jane.  And as I pray for her, I pray also that You will work mightily to make the IRS a more just and equitable agency and a kinder agency than it now is.  Oh Father, let us soon see Your powerful Hand dealing with them.

Jane Walker

I thank all of you for your prayers and, now, for rejoicing with me!  Thank you, AL, for your prayer.  Yes, this saga continues, but I am not troubled about it ... I know my Father is in charge of every detail. 
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Judy McKenna

Jane - I continue to be in prayer for you.
"I am too blessed to be stressed".

Jane Walker

Thanks, Judy ... The beat goes on .... I have a small problem with my car to be rectified tomorrow.  Just more of God's provision and watching over me.
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Jane Walker

Another step in "the process:"

I received a call today from the Oregon Dept. of Revenue with a couple questions and then the man said "I initiated this because we are looking into closing this account."  He will do a little more work and then let me know the result. 

Praise God!!

This is one more step in the process of God continuing His work.  Next will be the IRS!!   :D
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Ruth Ann Bice

What a great thing, Jane!!! Let's keep praying.

Ruth Ann
...his compassions fail not.  They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness.


Jane Walker

I just picked up the mail and opened the official letter from Oregon Dept. of Revenue: 
"Based on the information you gave us, we have cancelled your accounts, and you have a zero balance."  Whew!!

Now the next step will be to hear the same thing from the IRS! ...
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Marilyn

"Good people take care of their animals, but even the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel" Prov. 12:10
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karmat

A few days late, I suppose, but whoohooohwhwoowhowhwohwow

Nita

.....and I'll add one more whoohooowow.  God is good.


Jane Walker

Hey thanks, y'all!!   ;D 

My tax consultant friend says I probably won't hear from the IRS until mid-June.  Tax Season is over and everyone has to take their vacations ... I'm patient, though.  It's all in the Lord's timing y'know.
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Al Moak

And then, after that, it's about time YOU got a vacation from the IRS!  I pray it.

Jane Walker

#92
Well .... Guess what!!   Yesterday I checked my bank account online and noted a debit that I had not authorized ... (only $19.47) leaving me with a balance of $1.  Today I went to the bank and they said the person whose name was on the debit is the one who does garnishments.  I had the letters from Oregon DOR confirming the garnishment had been released and the account is cancelled.  They said to call Oregon Dept of Revenue.  I did.  I was told this is NOT their garnishment and I should call the bank.  I did that.   Well, this most recent garnishment is from the IRS!  I should be receiving the letters from IRS and the bank today.  Here we go again.

Yup, AL .... I will, most definitely, be ready for my vacation soon. 
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Marilyn

"Good people take care of their animals, but even the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel" Prov. 12:10
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karmat


Jane Walker

                                            ;D

God is GOOD!!
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Al Moak

Oh Father, I pray You'll release our dear sister from all these agravations.  I pray it'll happen very quickly now, and that there will be no "leftovers" to deal with - that she'll be totally free of it all.  Teach here inwardly whatever lessons You have for her in all this, and, Lord, produce good out of it that will glorify You.  Do these things now, I pray, through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ruth Ann Bice

Jane, I'm still praying about your situation. May God's blessings and strength and comfort keep you steady during this terrible trial.

Ruth Ann
...his compassions fail not.  They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness.


Jane Walker

He is a very present help in the time of trouble ... Where could I go but to the Lord.  Thanks, Ruth Ann
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Carol

Jane:  You are an inspiration!  Hang in there.
Carol

Jane Walker

Thanks, Carol ... Since there's nothing I can do about this but wait for the wheels to grind slowly on ... I am resting in the Lord and enjoying His daily provision.  I just know NOT to have any money in the bank until this is straightened out.   ::)
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!

Judy McKenna

Oh Jane....this is a terrible strain on you!

(be like my granny...hide your $$ under the mattress! :D)
"I am too blessed to be stressed".

Jane Walker

I know, Judy ... Jim calls it "shoebox banking" ... yup, that's the idea.
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass .... it's about learning to dance in the rain!