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"And a little child shall lead them..." (Isaiah 11:6, NIV)."

And just a thank you Mr Sowers for the story, I did like it. I think there is much to learn from places one would not expect. Even from a tiny child.


And Mr Papa John I love ALL your pictures.

Yes, Mieka, you are getting it!

Papa John, another nice photo!

I just posted a few photos, too, if anyone wants to go look at them.

We are supposed to go to the wrap up of the Walk Kansas thing this evening.  As far as I know, my team came in second.

Have a great evening, everyone!

Yes, go and see Janet's photos!  I just did!

Papa John ~ Yes, I love the photo's of you and Cornelia. I had at one time wished to have a love like you two have. It is definitely a God Blessed love. Even though we have never met personally, I do love the two of you very much! May you have many more years together to watch these grandchildren grow and have their own families.

QuoteSo some who are bad every day and they sin and are VERY bad, they will go to the Heaven too? only if they accept Jesus, yes?
But others who are good every day and try hard to do what is Gods wish.... they will go to this same Heaven?

i thought there will not be bad people in heaven. 
but they are not "bad", they are sinners..... yes? 

The Bible tells us that "all your righteousnesses are as filthy rags."  The reason is that however "slightly" we sin, that sin is rebellion against the infinitely good God - it flies in the face of His infinite goodness.  So it follows that sins are not bad, worse, and worst - they are all very, very bad.  But Jesus came into this world as our Sponsor, and He thereby became responsible for ALL our sins - volluntarily!  And His perfectly righteous life became ours - by representation.  Mieka - don't think of some sins as worse than others in God's eyes, because, since they are against Him, they are all very, very bad.  But Jesus took they ALL upon Himself, and, when we admit and confess that we are sinners and believe that He "loved us and gave Himself for us," then, in Him, we are beloved!  It only needs repentance and faith - alone.

I see Mr Moak,
But if you do something a long ago and you did not think it wrong, was it a sin.

And NOW you know it to be wrong, was it a sin when you did it? If you did not know it was wrong?  

By the way, Mieka, since God is the Potter and we are the clay, we can be absolutely certain that we will end up being perfectly formed vessels!  But that's only true of those who truly repent, admit they are lost, helpless sinners, and that Jesus Christ is a perfect - and willing - Savior!  There was a little, old Scottish verse that said, "I am nothing, nothing at all, and Jesus Christ is my all in all."

Quote from: Al Moak on May 19, 2003, 07:30:58 PM
By the way, Mieka, since God is the Potter and we are the clay, we can be absolutely certain that we will end up being perfectly formed vessels!  

OH What a WONDERFUL answer Mr Moak.

How many years must I learn if I wish to answer a question like this Mr Moak? I wish to help others one day too.

I thought I would put my two cents in about bad people.

There is a this guy. He is NOT a christian man.  He does good things for others.  He helps the needy and gives to the poor.  He plays with his kids and never is mean to them.  He takes his wife to dinner and loves her dearly.  Do you think he is going to heaven? No! If he doesn't believe in God and what He has done for us then he can't. God wants us to believe in Him.  He wants us to know that he made us and he loves us and he gave his son to die for our sins. <John 3:16>  If this man would believe in this and also repent of his sins then he will to go to heaven.  All he has to do is say "God forgive me for I have sinned.  I do believe that you gave me Jesus to die for my sins.

Am I right?!

Here's a thought. When I was younger I thought I was a good kid.  But once a became a christian I started to see ways I needed to change.  I think we all grow on different levels and God puts trails in front of us so we can learn and grow.  Some of us learn quick and others like me have a hard time with certain issues.  So I must go through the trials more then once.  It is so I can learn and be better.  God is patient with me and I always ask for forgiveness.

  I ask forgivness every day fo things I did not know was wrong of me. Now I see it is wrong in this culture, But was/is it wrong in a nother culture?  

Mieka - if God's Holy Spirit does not help me, then my answers will be of no value.  He is the One - and the only One - Who makes them of any value. The result is, Mieka, that you can help others right now!  Just try, pray, and see God work!
By the way, another thing.  You say,

QuoteBut if you do something a long ago and you did not think it wrong, was it a sin.
And NOW you know it to be wrong, was it a sin when you did it? If you did not know it was wrong?

It actually doesn't matter whether you or I know it is a sin.  Sin is anything contrary to the wonderful nature of God, so it is sin whether we know it or not.  See Romans 1:18 and following, for there we learn that we've always had the light of nature - by which we should have learned about God.  So we are guilty of all sins that we have committed now or in the past.  But Jesus "gave Himself for our sins, the Just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God (justified)."

I pray that our loving heavenly Father will give you full understanding of all His truth.

I love you Mr Moak, and I thank you for this help.  

Sonja - you say,

QuoteAm I right?!

.  You are right!  The Bible clearly tells us that "all your righteousnesses are as filthy rags."  We may do wonderul things as non-Christians, but we do not do them out of love for God, and He counts them as "filthy rags."  As someone said, "Only one life, twill soon be past, and only what's done for Christ will last!"  And I might add, "only what's done by Christ in and through us" -will last.

  OH MS PAT  
This picture of you and Mr Jack is Beautiful.

What a wonderful conversation in here tonight!  All I can say is that the Lord is really present here and I'm learning new things as well.

Thanks so very much Mieka for asking these great questions and Sonja, what a wonderful message to Mieka and I always learn from your posts, Al!

  What did you learn new Ms Pat?  

Hi Mieka...

The discussion by Al on sins (whether they are bad or big or terrible, etc.) has made a lot of my beliefs much clearer in my mind.  I wouldn't say that the information is "new" but how to explain it is so much clearer after reading Al's message to you.

I also think that it's a great day if we can go through it and realize that we learned something or that something was made clearer to us by someone.

((hug))
and I thank all of you here every day for this. It would not be fun at all to come here and learn if you were not all SO wonderful.

OH oh, I did not tell everyone, when I went for my run this morning I saw a VERY big seal on the sand with the big teeth. and I did not have a camera to share it here. I hope to get a pictures of this one day, they do not come here like this much. But they are VERY FAT.  
and gross, and they stink.  

Mieka, it's the love that Jesus has for you that will change you into, not what YOU want to be, but what He wants you to be.  You only need to give it over to Him and let Him work in your life.

We had a weekend that was perfect weather-wise and that will continue for at least another two or three days.  And in addition to the weather, we enjoyed a visit from Gene's daughter and her husband.

  Hahaha Ms Jeanne Lee - I delete it because it did not mean as I wish.

I want to be what God wants me to be, but I can not without help to undarstand what is his wish.

It is better now, yes?  

Mieka,

QuoteIt is the love of the people around me that will make me who I want to be. does this make sense?

When you have good Christian people around you who love you you can be thankful.  But remember you must love others and you must love God.  We love God because he first loved us.  But how can we love God whom we haven't seen if we don't love those we have seen?  The apostle John asks a question like that.  Love is SO important.

1 Cor 13:1-13

1   If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
2   If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
3   If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
4   Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
5   It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
6   Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
7   It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8   Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
9   For we know in part and we prophesy in part,
10   but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.
11   When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.
12   Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13   And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
(NIV)

- - - Papa John

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I am really enjoying all the posts today. i love Mieka'a questions, because they bring out the best in wveryone's answers, and give us so much to think about and go to the scriptures with.

I found out today that it is going to cost me about $750. for the truck and tow bar, That is the smallest (10 ft.)and cheapest truck at Budget rentals. Well God will provide, and my tight budget will help too. I have turned in to a real pennypincher of late, saving up for this move.

More later

  Hahaha Mr John, I delete that part - it came out strange to me.   and you save it.   I am glad you undarstand it.

Mr Papa John, you are wonderful. Does Ms Cornelia come here ever? does she read here on the CP with you? Please tell Ms Cornelia a Hi for me OK?

Cami ~ Thank you for your 'Many Names of Christ'.  He is special to everyone.

Pat ~ I like your new profile photo.  Good to see who you speak so highly about.  I was only outside once today.....to get the mail.  Kind of nippy.

Mieka ~ Yes, we try to be worthy but will never be worthy enough in our own eyes.  Just like trying to be sinless but we will be a sinner until we go to heaven.  I hope that is right...anyone?  I think of evil people and sinners as different.  Evil people ARE sinners but sinners are NOT evil.  I think of intentional and unintentional against God.  Yes, sinners will go to heaven BUT we have to confess and ask forgiveness of our sins and repent, meaning not intending to do the sin again.  Christ cleanses us of our sins.  And we won't be sinners in heaven....we will be perfect like Jesus.  Right? ....anyone?  And yes, what may be a sin to you may not be a sin to others.  And vice versa.

Marilyn ~ I definitely would not like anyone going in my house while I am gone.  I don't have a thing to hide but it is the principle of it.  Just like my purse.  No one gets in my purse without me telling them to get into it.  I guess I think there are some things that are mine and mine alone.  

Denise ~ Good to see you posting.  Stop in more often.  I enjoy your posts and photos.

Papa John ~ Another wonderful profile photo of you and Cornelia!  YES!  Your pictures on Webshots are great.  They even know me.  At the top of your page it said, 'Welcome Etta Sue'!  About freaked me out!

Janet ~ Great advice for Mieka.

Jane ~ Hello way out there in Coos Bay!

Al ~ Thank you for your explaination.  You do so much better than I do, for sure!

Sonja ~ Good thoughts and stories but very truthful.  No matter how good, how giving, how thoughtful, how caring, how generous, how etc. the ONLY way to heaven is to accept Christ as our Lord and Savior.  Deeds doesn't do it.  I, too, thought I was a good person.  But each day, I am reminded of sins that I ask forgiveness for.

Jeanne ~ You are so right.  I was confused just like Mieka and all of a sudden, He gave me the answers and I knew what choice I was to make.

Mieka, if you don't know it already, we all love you to pieces.  You bring out the best of us and all makes us think of God because of your questions.  You are making better people of each of us.  

Mieka,

Ms Cornelia doesn't do computer.  Sometimes I talk with her about my computer friends and I have told her about you.  I will say "Hi" to her for you.  Somehow I get the impression you are a little older than you appear to be in your little photo.  I saw one of you from a distance and kind of from the back and you looked a little taller.  Would you care to give us a photo?  Please?

Has Anthony been here today?  Seems like I have missed him.

- - - Papa John      

  You can not tell how tall I am with only a head  
This picture is maybe 2 years ago, I will show some others.

Mr John I am maybe 24 years old. Many think me a child because my English is not as old as my brain. I do try hard to learn the new words. It is a great help for me to talk here with others.

Hello everyone.  Just a quick note to say hello.  Been on crutches this weekend, so I'm tired from trying to get around.  But now it's beginning to get much better, I am down to only one crutch, so it's getting there.  I'll be glad to finally get off these things completely.  I hate slowing everyone down.  People have had to slow down and wait for me and make arrangements for my crutches, and bring me things.  I really hate being such a bother, but I'm so glad it wasn't broken.  Anyway, I have to be up early in the morning to go to work.  God be with you all.  Still thinking of everyone.  Jen.

Oh, Jen!  That's awful.  I hope that ankle gets better soon.

Thanks for all the wonderful discussion about whether or not we are worthy to go to Heaven. The wonderful assurance is that once we accept that Jesus Christ died for our sins, then we instantly are ready for Heaven.

The opportunity to rest in His assurance that our sins are completely forgiven at that moment when we accept Jesus Christ and his death for us, is such a marvelous thing.

Sometimes we talk about huses that are built on sand not being as secure and stable as houses that are built upon bedrock. Once I believe that Jesus Christ died for my sins and that forgiveness is there for the asking, then my faith now has the firmness of bedrock - unchanging and unchangeable - we ARE His children and accepted into the family of God at that moment.

What a wonderful assurance!

I made it through the work day without being excessively tired, and am still up and moving around and it's already past 9 p.m. So, God truly answered my prayers to give me strength to make it through this day.

Y'all have a wonderful evening.

Ruth Ann

Ruth Ann, I'm so happy you did so well today.  May you have a blessed night's rest, too!