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Quote from: Chris & Margit Saunders on October 24, 2003, 04:00:25 PM
Hey Nards, my Bro,
There is a good clue in Acts ch 1 v 11.
Keep the faith,
Regards Chris

Good answer, but that seems to me to point to the "manner" of His return - clouds, sky, as opposed to Mary's womb, rather than the nature of His body when He returns.  NOTE: It doesn't matter one little bit to this old country boy, I just wonder, you know??

The uncertainty on my part is partly spurred by His admonition to Mary to "not touch me, for I have not ascended yet to my Father" (not an exact quote, I don't think).  Some commentaries rephrase this as "do not cling to me" instead of "do not touch me", but regardless, I believe this indicates "SOME" type of change upon His ascension.  That seems to imply that He MIGHT not have a physical body when He returns.  However, another point is that WE will be RAISED from the dead, and WE will have a new BODY.  We also are guaranteed to be "LIKE HIM", which, when combined by the basic logical process, means He has a body.  (If we have a body AND we are like Him, that means He has a body.)

Boy.  I've gone a long way from angels.  Sort of.  

Good point, though, Chris.  Thanks!

HI JERRY!

What a terrific discussion in here today!  I've so enjoyed it.  I even got out a tape and listened to it on the Doctrine of Angels by Dr. Willmington of Liberty University and I so enjoyed that.

Hey Nards........

Great discussion.  Personally, I believe this is what we are all about with our brothers and sisters.  Everyone profits, no one is hurt, and we all gain by showing our mutual love and understanding.  BTW, buddy, were you a Marine? (Hair)

Remember the three men who came to Abraham?  Abraham spoke with only one of them (Our Lord).  Two went on to Sodom and Gamorrah, and no mention of what happened to the Lord other than Abraham bartered with Him.  Not an angel at that time, but surely a man, physically.  There are many occasions where our Lord appeared as not only man but as an "Angel of the Lord".  Here's one for you.......Jesus Christ also appeared as ("The Commander of the Army of the Lord")  And Nard, Jesus was standing there with a sword in His hand.  See Joshua 5:13-15.  Heavy, very heavy, and  awesome.  When we really stop to think about the Bible, both Old and New Testaments, the whole book is God speaking to us.  So I'm really not surprised to find our Lord presenting Himself in one of many forms for our edification.  Actualy, it's exciting.  Like Al, I'm not about to attempt communicating with angels.  And like you, I agree with Al's post.

Please allow me one more thought.  I personally have no problem with our Lord appearing to man for reasons stated in the Word with His First and Second Coming.  I reason these two great events to be so dynamic and seperate from all others because they are designed to completely change the course of sinful mankind and his existance on earth.  Boy, could we all get deep into this discussion.

Howdy Jerry.........

Clue me in.  Three years for what?


Etta Sue.......

Vivian says she has the same kind of veins and calls herself a "Turnip".


Pat.......

How's your study of Job coming along?  Have a question to ask when you near completion.

I'm just here weeping listening to the dear mother of Cecilia speaking to the press.  At one point she said, "Cecilia, you asked Mummy the other day if she believed in God.  Cecilia, YES, I believe in God!  I believe that God will take care of you."  and then she collapsed and had to be led from the room.

What an interview.

I'm so sad for that dear couple.

Here's a link...

They had a translator too for the Mandarin community.


http://canada.com/toronto/story.asp?id=B45FE668-89EC-4425-AC50-834B75AB1126

Etta Sue - it's very heartening to see other people looking at Rick Warren's books.  The Purpose Driven Church is practically mandatory reading at our little church, and we're very seriously looking at Beginning Life Together - a home-Bible study help by others in Warren's church.  I had come to many of the same opinions as Warren many years ago in study of Ephesians 4, and it was therefore a tremendous encouragement to read The Purpose Driven Church.

Hi Al...

With all the talk in here about the book, I have it ordered but I'm not sure when I'll get it...  But I'm sure looking forward to reading it.  I guess it was Larry who first mentioned it to us about a month and a half ago.  I wish I had ordered it then.

Let's sing!

Al, Lee, Iain, Chris, others...

It's been great "discussing" with you all today.  I may not have another opportunity to post tonight, but thanks for all the great thoughts.  You've all been a great encouragement to me.

Love all of ya!

Pat thanks for Jacks thouhts on Angels.

Iain I know exactly where you are coming from. Last Sunday our Pastor preached on Psalm 73 which seems to sum up your thoughts completely.  I too have felt like giving up, "In vain I have washed my hands" Whats the point. But thanks God the psalmist recovered himself and was saved from himself when he considered the BIG picture.

PS 73:13 Surely in vain have I kept my heart pure;
   in vain have I washed my hands in innocence.

 PS 73:14 All day long I have been plagued;
   I have been punished every morning.

 PS 73:15 If I had said, "I will speak thus,"
   I would have betrayed your children.

 PS 73:16 When I tried to understand all this,
   it was oppressive to me

 PS 73:17 till I entered the sanctuary of God;

I hope everyone reading this will read the rest of the psalm.

Ken

My My I haven't seen Al be so talkative in a very long time. It looks like Lee and Nards is bringing him Out of his cocoon.


This place is getting to be very active and most interesting. We have great teachers here. My compliments to Lee, Nards Al, Iain, Chris and Ken for waking us all up here.  ;)We were getting too full of ourselves. Humph maybe I'd better speak for myself only. Sorry about that Sisters.

I know my posts were too full of myself. Thanks for the kick in the pants Guys.

Thank you Pat for the discussion and that wonderful song "My Tribute"    To God be the Glory, for the things He has done.

I also want to thank everyone who has taken a few minutes out of your busy day to pray for LALWALSAWMA .....  if his name is hard to remember just say "Lord heal LAL in India"  God knows who he is!   His father Vanlal says that his son has been diligent and faithful in his studies and is ready for his exam on Monday, but he is weak physically.  He needs the Hand of God to touch him and heal him.  

Thank you for your faithfulness.


Love Ruthie

This has been a very long week a little of this and a little of that but just the same too busy.

I have checked in several times and have enjoyed the discussions about angels.

Heather I am glad to see you posting.
Pat: I enjoy the music I often wish it was a constant play.  Just checked for a repeat play and found it.

Have a great evening

Hi Ruth...

I was just going to say that this is controlled on your computer and then I guess that you are saying you found out where to change it?

I have mine set to play continuously until I turn it off.



Hi Ken...

I just finished reading Psalm 73.  Thanks so much for sharing those thoughts with us all.

Just a word to let you al know I'm doing fine.  Seems like everything tires me out.  Anyway I am getting stronger all the time I think.  The little nurse came today.  I hope you are well.  Maybe I'll so better tomorrow reading the posts, etc.

--- Papa John              <)))><<

Lee ~ The three years are how long it takes for some to overcome a stroke. I am trying for the year or less, Ha! Ha! I had the stroke in July and Etta Sue has been keeping everyone up to date on it. I don't write like she does. I hope to be able to take over someday though. I think of everyone on CP and I pray for their days to be happy with God. Pat S. knows me personally too! She can probably tell you about me. Nard and Karmat met me at Etta Sue's also. I was to meet Jane and her sisters, but I had the stroke that week and didn't get to. I hope to meet as many as I can though, Papa John especially since I talked to him on AOL message boards and was dragged up to srnet because of him and Norm. He was with me when Bev died., well not really, but he was close to me on the PC and I won't ever forget that. He is the best one of all. He will keep us straight and I believe him. MTYWTK!!!!!!!!!!

Auntie Pat,thank you for that devotional,It reminded me of Uncle Jack. Thank You.
Mr.Papa John, I have been praying for you!!!!
Ms.Ruth,how are you? Hows Mel?
Mr.Ken, thank you for those verses.
Ms.Marlyin, our God is an awosome God.
Thank you all for letting me join and feel so welcome
Melaura

  It is my Papa John    I am SO happy to see you and I pray for you and Ms Cornelia each day.    (((hug)))

MR JERRY   (I ate american today)  
in and out burger  

Ms Pat I am so sad of this little girl Cecilia. It is a great pain to me that i wish not to talk of, but my heart is with her every moment.

And Ms Ruthie, I did pray for your friend
Mr. LALWALSAWMA and I will each day for this week.

I love the talk of the angels today. I have so many questions of them.
Ms Jenny did say
......."The angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear Him and delivereth them".
Mr Webster did not know the encampeth, but it is my wonder if the angels are here for ones that do not know Jesus too? I think, yes? is it written?  

Hi everyone and a happy friday ok.

  Hi Ms Melaura  

I am Mieka  

Mieka - the angels of the Lord are messengers, sent to protect God's people.  They are indeed sent to unbelievers also, but not for the same reason.  God's people are special to God, and He uses His angels for their good, whereas the rest of the world is still in rebellion against Him, so doesn't get that kind of blessing.

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We are so glad to have you here with us. Pull up a chair and tell us all about yourself.

Well y-all I am off to the church for that steak dinner. BTW  last night I kept dreaming that I wqas setting up my new computer. But It won't even be shipped until the 29th. So maybe by te 5th of Nov. I will be up and running and posting photos. Guess I can start using my camera again now. HUH?

Will catch up with y-all later. Love y-all.

It's great to see more and more "newbies" arriving!    

Hi, Mieka!  

Welcome to Deerhunter, and to Melaura!

Happy birthday to Judy McKenna!

After an almost sleepless night, getting up at 5 AM and a trip to Amarillo and back (about 430 miles) I am really weary.

Great discussions on angels!  I have thoughts to add, but if I try tonight they probably wouldn't be coherent, so it will keep.

We did not receive good news from the doctor today about Beth.  My heart is very heavy.  It is hard to see the keyboard or screen through my tears.  After about 2 1/2 hours of painful tests, he told us she has extensive nerve damage, muscle atrophy, and lack of electrical impulse conductivity in both legs and both feet.

After Beth left the room I asked about her prognosis and he said it is progressive and that Beth soon will be unable to walk at all any more.  And that there is not anything they can do to help her.  I am heartbroken.  I haven't told Beth this news yet; I don't know whether or not I should.  What do you think?  She is keeping a good attitude and trying to do all she can for herself; I don't want to do anything to discourage her.  I just keep going around and around in my mind about it.  Any advice?

It surely is good to see the guys posting more in here!  And you gals, too!  I love all of you.

Janet~   I am so sorry to hear the news.  I was praying for Beth today.  I am not sure what you should do.  I will keep you all in my prayers.  
(((((((((((((((((((hug))))))))))))))))))))))))

Love you
Sonja

 This is happening to me sitting here at the computer!

We had a delicious chicken & biscuit dinner at the American Legion tonight, met up with some fellow Legionnaires & Auxiliary members we haven't seen in a while.  But we also found out a dear friend had died more than a week ago.

Then we went to a special prayer meeting at church for service men and women, especially those associated in some way with our congregation.  Although only the pastor, four others and ourselves were there it was a really uplifting evening, with some powerful prayers being lifted to the Throne.  Three young men who are members of our little church are serving in Iraq and one is in Korea.   Others are deployed in other overseas locations and stateside - we have 17 on our "Roll of Honor".  And in the town and village of Corinth there are a total of 60 men and women in the various armed services.  

Now I think I'll get my evening preprations done and let these old eyes close.  

I AM so sorry, Janet.  Words fail me.  I'm not certain what you should do but one thing definite is that you should pray about it.

I'm wondering about Beth's age.  She's old enough to get this news herself from the doctor and will she be a bit upset that it was told to you and not her?

(I'm just thinking out loud here)

I'll continue praying as I have been during this day.  I will pray that you will be aware of the Lord's guiding hand in this.

Mieka..........

In your BIble studies you remember that there were two kinds of angels in heaven.  Those who serve God continuously, and those who followed after Satan (Lucifer).  God's holy angels are His messengers who do in fact protect followers of Jesus Christ.  The demonic angels do not serve God, and were banished from heaven to earth.  Some of them were so bad that they have been cast into the "Pit" and will remain there until released by God to do Satan's bidding [After the Rapture of God's Church].  Only "Born Again" Christians will be Raptured and will be with the Lord for ALL eternity, and if any individual is not "Born Again" they will NOT inherit the kingdom of God.  The unholy angels will be unleashed onto earth to bring death and destruction.  These [Once angels of God] will also be cast into the Lake of Fire at the close of the age.  I'm most pleased to report to you that millions upon millions will come to the Lord during the Tribulation period (As many as the sands of the sea).  Remember Mieka, all mankind that refuse to follow our Lord Jesus Christ [ALONE] will NOT be protected by God's holy angels.  Now why do I say "alone"?  Simply Mieka, there are people who call themselves pastors who would have mankind believe that Jesus is NOT the true Son of God, that He is NOT God, and that He is the brother of Satan.  Now you and I know that this kind of thinking is non other than DEMONIC.  Again, this refers to the bad angels who want mankind to [THINK] they are following after Christ, but are actually following after Satan.  THis is why you and I MUST be discerning and READ the BIble.  God will tell us all the truths we will ever want to know.