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JudyB...........

I've been athletic all my life  and still am, but in my best days I could never have run that many laps.  I can only assume 360 laps will be run over a course of time and not all at one time.  Good grief, that's a run.


Ruthie.........

I believe I told you I went through DE, not EE, but both are the same.  What phase are you in at the present time?  Have you gone out yet?  If so, have you been given the opportunity to give the presentation by yourself yet?

PTL Ruthie, they both liked each other and exchanged phone numbers.  They agreed on meeting for lunch again.

QuoteHas anyone else here had the experience of having to phone your child and ask permission to come for a visit? When I first got here I went to visit whenever I felt like it and soon Gilbert told me to call ahead of time and ask if I could come over. I feel like I am walking on eggs.

Yes, Marilyn ... I was informed to "always call first" before visiting my daughter ... when she was terminally ill with cancer!  My son-in-law is still that way, and Jean's been gone nearly 4 years.  He even sat in the living room while I visited with the girls (age 16 and 18 now) I feel like I'm having supervised visits with my granddaughters!    I was never allowed in any other room of their house ... just the living room and he would "go see" if Jean was up to coming out for a few minutes.  I told him she didn't have to get up, I could go sit by her bed .... "oh, NO!  No one goes in our bedroom!!!"    

I also have another son-in-law who will not go to any family functions and most certainly not anything to do with church!  That's okay.  That's where he is at the moment and I don't expect anything from him that he is not willing to give.  I have informed my daughter that I will not be in Spokane again without an invitation ... same goes for California, but that daughter isn't even there, now.  My granddaughters are not able to invite me, so I have a feeling I will be "the grandma in Oregon" from here on out!

Awww...Jane! That is really sad. You come over here and be my kids' grandma any day.  We would welcome you with loving arms open wide.  I would even let you in my laundry room.  hehehehe...only if you help!  

Marilyn..........

You shared some of your past with me and I love you for it.  Why? becasuse you were honest and were so willing to let me know how much you not only love the Lord, but your love for your fellow man as well.  Your openness and being grateful to the Lord for reaching down and  making you life anew.  This is what you have to convey to your [son] (Is this who it is?).  Ask him if he believes he is perfect and is completely without fault?  Ask him if he would  rather have you like you used to be, or is he happy with who you are now.  Tell him that only through the love of Jesus Christ could you make such a change in your life.  Let him know that ALL mankind are sinful and only a fwe have asked for forgiveness.  BTW, have you ever asked him to forgive you?  If not, do so.  Tell him you love him and that you thank the Lord for his having forgiven you.  Let him know that man is slow to forgive, but God forgives immediately upon asking Him.  Be sure he knows that you ARE changed and that you through off the old you, and that you now embrace Jesus Christ as your Savior.  I have a hunch you have doen this, but it obviously didn't get through to him and you must go through it again.  If he argues with the NEW you, ask him which one he would prefer, the new you or the old you?  NOt many people loved the old you Marilyn, but now you live in a world where millions love you.  Can he say this?

Okay, all y'all ... [size=+2]LISTEN UP!![/size]
I want you to know that I am not  was not worried, afraid, or nervous about any procedure for which I had been scheduled.    I think I like to have someone with whom I can share what's happening in my life, what I'm thinking, etc.  The first post I made was to let y'all know that I'm always around here, just seldom have much to say.  Then I mentioned that I was feeling alone because I had no one to tell about my up coming medical procedure --- [That NITA was so kind as to tell you was needed after I passed out one morning!    ]
What do you s'pose I was doing here?  I came to share with y'all .... my family .... how I was feeling, what I was thinking, and that I was going to be going for an MRI today.  

I agree with each one of you who said that you are my family!  I love you all and whenever I feel the need to share with someone ... well, you are that those someones.  K???

Oh, yeah, I went for the MRI this afternoon and nearly went to sleep in that contraption!  I got to anticipating what the next set of sounds would be like.  Seemed no time at all before they told me it was all over!  hmmmm          Guess it will be a while before anyone knows what the imaging shows.  I am not at all concerned because I KNOW my Father is in control of everything that concerns me and there is nothing that will be a surprise to Him.  In fact, I don't anticipate anything out of the ordinary.

Pat............

QuoteSorry Lee...   I just went to our Error Log and see that I slammed the door in your face again!  Hope you don't have any bruises.

Nopfffffff. HAHAHAHA

Thank you all for you support . I love you all. Jane I will pray for your situation and you pray for mine OK?

Lee You are so right, no one loved the old me, but I have lots of people who love me now. I have done all those things you mentioned i.e. asked forgiveness tolda him that God has forgiven me, I even tol him that if he forgave me why keep bring it up. He doesn't alway bring up things out of the past, but when he does it is always a doozy that I can't answer.

Drugs make people do things that are so out of the norm for them and they don't even remember doing them. Drugs make a person be some one they themselves hate let alone how other people look at them the only friends thy have are other druggies.

I think a lot of Gilbert's problem is that he never really got to know his father. We separated and got divorced because he wouldn't get off heroin and statred using again before Gilbert was born by a few months. I was off the junk and he wasn't. So we split up. Gilbert's father was in prison so much and when he did visit  he would take Gilbert in the car on his drug deals. So I stopped the visits.for 6 years.He was killed  over a bad drug deal in prison when Gilbert was 9, He was involved with the Mexican Mafia and after he was released fromprison, two weeks later someone from the Aryan Brother hood (the whites) shot him 5 times with a 357 magnum.

Gilbert resents his father because he wouldn't get off heroin for his son. Now that he is a father himself he really resents it.

Too much information. Sorry about that I got on a roll.

By the way I was clean and sober until Gilbert was 15, when I remarried again and got on speed occassionally. But then Gilbert was smoking pot and still is. He keep trying to get me to smoke it with him. Teasingly, knowing that I won't.

Oh Marilyn - you have been through so much... I wish you and I lived closer... I know we would be such good friends.

This site is such a wonderful one... one where we can "bear one another's burdens"'  Janet - I think you printed out the start of a hymn I used to sing:" I can tell Jesus all of my troubles".  Perhaps someone knows which one I am trying to think of and will put the words here.

We will be away visiting family in Michigan., will return on Sunday.

Marilyn Keep walking the walk.  It will be seen.  Be a friend, and I just thought of something.  YOu have been out of their lives long enough that they don't know who you are and you don't know them.  You may need to become friends b4 you can be anything else.  Does that make any sence.

Love Judy

Lee I had my son figure that out.  350 laps is the equivalent to about 90 miles.  It cannot be right.  Neither can 350 meters.  SOOOO I don't know the truth.  I say this I am buying quality runners tomorrow so she can start working on conditioning.

JudyB Gilbert and I have always been close and friends and it is as Sonja said a trust issue. We were apart for 9 years while I lived down south and I was on speed for 4 of those years. I ahve been clean now for 6 years. He told me He like having me close so when he has a question he can ask me face to face. We enjoy hanging out together and talking.

Jane I got it!  

Too bad kids treat their parents like that.

Ruth put it this way to me a few years ago, we did the best we could with the tools we had.

Got to run I want to call Ruth

Love toall

{{{{{HUGS}}}}}

Marilyn, I sent you an email earlier and read Lee's post and we say mostly the same thing.  That life is over now and in time your son will want some of the peace that he will see in your life.  Time will help both of you and prayers will bring results.

I heard from my daughter last night about her aunt and my former-sister-inlaw.  (my family isn't too confusing as I only married once)  My BIL is a retired doctor and his wife was quite successful with the stock market.  They had everything, including two sons in the ministry...all are Christians.  Had a long happy marriage...married at 18 yrs. and reached 70ish.  Travelled the world and decided they wanted to move to Panama in the beginning of this year.  Flew to visit Wendy's granddmother and got of the plane, when SIL suddenly dropped dead.  No warning, no prior illness.  I have not been involved with them for years, so this, tho' sad, is not a personal loss.  I am merely telling this to make a point.  The point being, we can dream, make plans, build a house in another country, but we should always remember that plans should be written in pencil, because God really does hold the eraser.  This has certainly made me realize just how much my life is under the control of Him.

Sonja, I hope that you will one day find the time to study Revelation.  It is one of the most interesting studies and explains all that is happening in our present world.  Tho' guess that is kind of scary!

Another person wants to see my Condo on Friday and someone in Arizona is also interested....that's a switch.  Most of BC goes there for winters!!  

Rambled enough.  Thank you Papa John.  Your post is very helpful.  God Bless.

Quote from: Lee Kirkwood on October 28, 2003, 07:58:24 PM
Mieka.........

One answer to your question is because man is sinful and they often disappoint you.  This is not to say you can't trust your fellow man, but with man you must know them well before you place your trust in them.  Even then, they may let you down.  With Jesus Christ, you will never be disappointed because He not only doesn't lie, He cannot lie.  Therfore, He can be trusted in ALL things.

Good words, Lee.  Boy, it seems I sometimes have a hard time acting like I believe them, even though I know they are true.

hey ya'll,
Just got done with homework now some computer time. this week is Red Ribbon Week or Drug Awareness Week. it's a lot of fun we have Theme days. like today  was drungs and i don't mix. and tomorrow is my future looks bright and drug free. we all dressed up today in mixed matched clothes tomorrow we dress like what we want to be when we "grow up".my fav day is Thursday hugs not drugs bring your teddy bear wear your pj's and house shoes!  we have a fun week with it all.
So how is everyone i have enjoyed reading your posts over the last few days. i was in kingfisher sunday thru monday and had fun with it we had an AWESOME speaker. and came home with several ideas to use with students around here! well this is a really long post so i think i'll go ahead and catch up on the other forums too!
Sarah

I hope I haven't given y-all the impression that I am depressed again, not so.  For one thing I am on anti-depressants and have just increased the dosage to what it is supposed to be. Actually the Wellbutrin has a side effect tha is beneficial for me, it takes away all desire to smoke and  I am down to 4 a day and this is it. This medication makes it hard to sleep taking it twice a day, Bummer. Gotta deal with it though for both benefits, no depression and no smoking.

Evening all.  I've been packing on and off all day, getting ready for the move on Friday.  Plus I have volunteered to drive a friend to her optomitrist tomorrow early some 40 miles away.  I hope I will get all the packing done before Friday!  Good night all...

Hi everyone!!

Well another very productive evening in the life of this lady!  The more I want to learn about me, the more I am learning about why I do the things I do.  

Mom, yes you did do the best you could do with the tools you had as a parent.  The only thing that one needs to be cautious of, is using the same tools, but in different ways.  I have bought, read, and re-read a very good book call "Kids Are Worth It!" and I would recommend it to any parent, young or old.  It is written my Barbara Colorosso.  She isn't a Christian author, however her book is fantastic.  She takes a several stands in her book that are very morally sound.  She is a coach that many parenting facilitators like to use now.  I am looking forward to the next time that she is in the Tri-City area so I can go to one of her lectures.

Anyway, I have been online quite long enough, and I have an early start in the morning.

Take care everyone.....love you all.
Heather

Quote from: Sonifo on October 28, 2003, 08:20:56 PM
Awww...Jane! That is really sad. You come over here and be my kids' grandma any day.  We would welcome you with loving arms open wide.  I would even let you in my laundry room.  hehehehe...only if you help!  

Sure thing, SONJA!!  (I'll help with the laundry).  I'd love to be "Grandma" to your kids!  Cool!!

I guess if I want to give the answers to Lee's quizes I'm just going to have to change my schedule around somehow and get here earlier.  

QuoteGod knows what I want but He knows even better what I need.

Iain, that is so true - so many times I've thought I knew what I wanted or needed, but found out eventually that God not only knew better but was there to provide it when HE knew the time was right.

This has been a long day and it's already 11:00 p.m. here.  I did get a lot done though, both around the house and working on the town's website.  I haven't put anything up yet with FrontPage, but I did post a new page today about the visit of the 3rd grade class for their "Government Day".  I did it writing the code myself and now I think I'll try doing it from scratch with FP, just to see what difference it makes in time and appearance.  

Bernard, I'm not taking any classes, just trying to learn on my own as I've done with everything else computer-wise.   I'm like Larry in that I started out with  basic HTML on SeniorNet several years ago and have a couple of books that I use when I want something new.  A lot of trial and error go into some things.    I'm trying very hard not to resent the need to use FrontPage - just consider it one more challenge.  And I know that with the Lord's help I can conquer it.  (not necessarily like it, though.  )  

(If anyone's interested in the website I'm talking about, it's http://www.townofcorinthny.com)

  Pinkie I don't know whether I said it but I love the new look!

Nards. That pic of you looks like you are sitting back looking at the screen trying to figure out something.

Pat are you back??? How is the mouth tonight?

Janet Many of us are or have been where you are.  I IM'ed you a couple of days ago, did you get it?  I for one will be praying for you in the situation.


As Bonnie just said on MSN I really should go to bed and get rid of this cold.  Night all
Judy

Lee..... I have been in EE for 18 years.  I have taught Level 1,  2,  and 3,   and right now I teach Level 2.  Because I have attended an EE clinic many years ago, I am a trained teacher/trainer.

Tonight we went cold calling or knocking on doors.   The very first person we talked to, came to faith in Jesus Christ, right in the hall of an apartment building.Please pray for Clare, that she will grow in the Lord.

We then walked down the hall and knocked on another door.   A muslim family invited us in and I presented the gospel for the second time.   They are from Pakistan and are very interested.   I am going to get Ravi's book "Jesus amongst other gods" and "More than a carpenter"   for the young Grade 11 son.

We were so excited.   My new trainee wants to go door to door every week!    My face was all pink and flushed from the excitement of the evening.    

Thank you for your prayers.      

Praise God.


Ruthie

Sonja thanks for the cute scuba diver in your post to me!  I liked that!  Will also send you an IM.

Jane, you have really been through the wringer!  I'm so sorry, and hope things get better with your family.  No one can hurt us as bad as our family.  "You always hurt the one you love" only I think it's the other way around.  If you didn't love them, they couldn't hurt you nearly so much.

Marilyn, I'm sorry Gilbert is being so distant, too.  Maybe when you move again and aren't right nest door, he will want to see you......sort of "absence makes the heart grow fonder."  We can hope!

Liz, I hope one of the prospects is the person who just "can't live without" your condo!  

Pat, good to see you back home!

We had friends in for supper and a movie on DVD.  Nice change, we don't do that often enough.  Beth was over, too.

Pinkie, where are you moving?  Don't overdo it lifting heavy stuff!

Hey Nards!!  Hey, Karma!!

Hi, Lee!

Rachelle, how are you?

Hey, JudyB........and Judy Mc........

Mieka!  Love you, girl!

Hello, Sarah, good to see you posting!

Larry and Papa John, always good to read your edifying posts.

I am tired, guess I will check out the other threads and hit the sack!

I'm off to dreamland, too.  See you all tomorrow.  Until then...

Quote from: Marilyn Fisher on October 28, 2003, 08:56:45 PM
Thank you all for you support . I love you all. Jane I will pray for your situation and you pray for mine OK?

For sure, MARILYN!  I'll keep you in my prayers every day.  God is STILL in control, y'know?

I don't even think about my "situation" any more ... things are as things are.  I know my Father takes care of all the details and He will, and is, working all things out for good ...  There are times, like recently, when I would like to be able to let some of my family know what's happening in my life, but I know they all have their own lives to live and when they have the opportunity or inclination they will get in touch with me.  The only ones that can't do that are my granddaughters (Jean's two girls) in Sacramento.  They just don't write ... or make phone calls to Grandma ... and most of the time when I call there, they are "out".  Or at least that's what their dad tells me.  He used to lie about Jean's availability, too, though, so I don't know if they really are out or if he just doesn't want me to talk with them.    They are teens and I know that keeps them busy.  I also have heard that they try to stay out of the house as much as possible (because they don't want to be with their dad that much.)  

JUDY B~  GOOD!  

Y'all take care, now ... I'll be back before Pat locks the door  (I hope).  

Quote from: JudyB on October 28, 2003, 11:11:34 PM
Nards. That pic of you looks like you are sitting back looking at the screen trying to figure out something.

I was probably trying to figure out how to keep that boy asleep so that I could stay asleep myself.  Nowhere near the computer...

Goodnight Everyone.

God Bless


Ruthie

Just jumping in (hope I didn't land on anyone, that would be very bad ) to say good night.  Think I will try to head to bed soon, in case TAS decides he needs a third pre-7am wake up in a row.  

"See" ya tomorrow.