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Hello Everyone...

This has been a busy Sunday for me with company, phone calls and also still trying to get rid of my headache.  It's nearly gone.


Etta Sue, you certainly are a busy lady along with Jerry at your church!  Making tape copies is a big job.  How many can you do at one time?  In the church I used to attend, I used to help with this and we did 12 at a time with the machine that they had.  I never saw another one like that.


Great to see everyone posting.

It IS good to hear the different opinions on things.  Let's always be kind in our posts setting out our differences.  I felt strongly when Sonja asked last night that I put forward my opinion on the Prayer of Jabez book (and on no other book as I haven't even heard of the other two mentioned) as I became involved in it last spring and did some research into it at that time.  But some of you do differ and that's your prerogative.

We all have our opinions.  My caution is that everything be tried to see if they ARE from the Holy Spirit and from the scripture as it was written.    Some are and some aren't but still sound good. Read 1 Thes. 5:51 again and again.  That's my caution.  

I don't know of an internet site where people all agree 100%.  Is there one?  I just don't know of it.  And it's difficult when people all come from various churches where different doctrines, etc. are taught.  But up until now, we haven't had any big problems on CP and that's really good.  Let's keep it up.  I've learned so much from many of you.  We're nearly SEVEN MONTHS old!  I know that on the other CP, we were nearly a year there but with my owning this website, it's nearly 7 months.


Liz, I got your photos!  They were delivered in error by my postman to 229 instead of 299 (you had it addressed correctly) and the man just brought them up a few minutes ago.


I'm so far behind in my PSP lessons but I do really want to complete this course.  I will try this week to get caught up.


Wow, Lee!  What a huge church!  You can sure get lost in a church of that size.  Give me the small ones anyday!  

It's too late now to reply to everyone's post but just will say that I enjoyed reading all of your comments.  



I don't think we spoke about the devotional today at all so maybe we could just sing this hymn again together?  With real meaning?










It isn't easy being an Administrator either!  

Mr Moak, I love you,

It is my wonder if perhaps it is a easy prayer for many to say because they do not yet often talk with God.
The journey of a thousand miles will always begin with the first step.
Perhaps for some it is a way to show God they want for him. Any time with God is a good time, yes?
It is my thought that any tiny thing it is not a matter how small, can be a great help to those who ask and to those who seek and to those who look for God in any way.
It is my prayer that they will all find Him and Grow in His love for them.

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I don't know of an internet site where people all agree 100%.  Is there one?  I just don't know of it.

Oh Pat, dontcha know that DPChallenge.com never has any disagreements??  
<karmat laughs hysterically!>

Oh!

Hey!  I see Carol online!

Great to see you Carol.  (Carol's been to Canada's east coast!)

Pat are you doing the Happydance?

Well, I'm doing something...not sure what it's called.  HAHAHA!

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Awwww....  Marilyn!!!!   That was so sweet.

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Ms Judy,

It is Mieka, it was safe here at my home not long ago. There are today 4 famlies here that did have the house burn and they have no place to go tonight.

I am to leave is some days and my room it is for them to stay, i will not need it any more for many month.

Now there is a fire in the Malibu too  
Not long ago it was SO bad here in the Malibu from the fire. I see the houses that are gone each day, but i did not see the fire then. Many talk of it for my time here, but I did not see it as I do today.

I pray God will help with this. I pray He will help the ones that make this fires everywhere so they can know it is so bad that they do this.  

My heart is heavy for so many tonight. There are more than 500 houses are gone here and a new fire tonight in the Malibu where i live.  

Meeks, I am so sorry to hear about the fire.  I pray for your safety.  When are you leaving ?  You will be missed greatly.  

I took a picture of a boat, yesterday.  Thought of you!!!

I just submitted to the "Shadows" challenge at DPC.  This picture is one of those that I don't expect to score well, but I captured my idea (well, Nards' idea) like I saw it in my head, and that is always a small victory.

Ohhhhh...  Mi!  I'm so sorry!

You look after yourself sweetie.  

(I'm checking my mail in the next few days!!!)

Mieka, I pray that you and your household will remain safe. That the Lord will emcamp His angels all around your house, That He will be that wall of fire around you, a shield of protection. Lord God watch over our Mieka,  her family and thier guests. I pray that no more houses will burn and the fires will soon be brought under control and put out. amen

Mieka please keep us informed of the situation surrounding you. I love you little one.

Hi...
Thank You Lee about what you said about being careful about getting into reading alot of the books that are out there-I do think that there are alot of good books out there and alot of good information on things that are happening now-I am familar with the bookstore at the Healing rooms in Spokane, Washington-they have alot of good books there ..and My husband and I have purchased some there-He has read more than I-For me-I find it hard to read because I am focused all day long teaching the children and I find it hard to sit down in the evening to read a book-I also think that the most important book is the word of God  and for me I need to study Gods word and rely on his words for my life. He gives us the road map for our lives.
Rachelle

Meika-
I am praying for you and for all the families..
Rachelle

I feel kinda stupid right now because I have absolutely nothing of any worth to say.  I simply have the opportunity to post and so I guess I will.  

Mi - we're gonna miss you girl.  I pray God protects you from the fires, too.  Go with God and focus everything you do on Jesus Christ.  

Lee - I confess I was a little upset with you earlier today, brother, but Jesus and time can heal those kinda things, and we're cool now  I like those 36 person churches, too.  Ours is more like 80, but I went to a 25 member church for many years.  

Pat - if my personal willingness to "challenge" folk I disagree with is something that I need to back off on to preserve the general atmosphere, please let me know and I'll swallow some pride and deal with it. I personally think it's okay, appropriate, and sometimes required to discuss some differences and learn how to really do it in love.  I'm working hard on the love part; I'm a good arguer but often lose contact with compassion and gentleness.

Marilyn - thanks so much for your "confession" about being a loner with a computer.  Karma and I are both very much the same kind of people.  In my opinion, it's an appropriate use of technology for people like us to come together.  Our doctrines may have their differences, but our love for Jesus is strong, and we can all certainly encourage and help each other.  Let's continue to do that.  

Al - to be honest, I have always thought the prayer of Jabez was rather selfish.  To propose it as the "answer to the Christian struggle" would seem rather silly to me.  However, I have NOT read that book, and so I hesitate to judge Bruce Wilkinson.  It SEEMS to me, though, that such a prayer would focus on material wealth, and that doesn't SEEM appropriate.  It is a definite conviction of mine that liturgical prayers serve little use - apologies to those who feel otherwise.  I think liturgical prayers in general can teach us HOW to pray, but should never take the place of one-on-one communication with God.  I also agree that Jabez' prayer is not presented as a model prayer while "the Lord's prayer" was.  

"Books" discussion - "The Dream Giver" doesn't seem to be doctrinally off track (I've only read the first half), it is really written as an "encouragement" to keep pursuing God's will ("the Big Dream"), and it is definitely NOT New Age as the title might imply.  At this point my take on it is that some of it's advice could be wrongly applied to physical issues rather than the spiritual issues that I think the author intends.  At this point I would not recommend against or for reading of it.  It definitely seemed to spark a little life in my spiritually frustrated sweetheart.  One of her dreams, for those who don't know, is writing.  To attack books outside the Bible as being questionable struck home on a level much deeper than the writers may have realized.  Not only was the book she read at stake, but the very validity of what she believes is part of her calling was put at stake.  Nuff said, just wanted to explain why this was somewhat of a big deal around the Shuford household today

Everybody - love you guys for the life you bring to our home.  I suppose it's strange for two mid-thirties parents not to have a social life, but ours is quite honestly limited.  There are a million reasons, it seems, but it's great to have you guys here and not be constrained by church schedules and committee meetings when we talk to you.  Thanks for being our friends!

I may be back later, who knows.  This is a pretty enduring post for someone who had absolutely nothing to say... and that wasn't a lie either.  It all came as I typed, but I guess it was buried somewhere!

Nards you just followed the leading of the Holy Spirit as He gave you the words. They just came as you wrote as you said. God bless you Brother.

Nards, you and Karma are both very special people to Christian Photography.  Not only did you stick with us when we suddenly became orphans on our website but you gave us a home until this site was built.  I never built anything so quickly in my life!  We won't ever forget what you did for us.

Thanks for your loving post.  I know that you love the Lord so much.   Look after the little "house wrecker" for us.  He's one sweetie.

Hi Everyone......I have been reading all the discussions about books and other things.   There are some fantastic books out there.    If you ever get a chance to read books by Ravi Zacharias, you will be blessed.   But be prepared, he is called a thinker and is very deep.   He writes about apologetics and has debated on the radio and TV.  He has written a book called "Jesus amongst other gods"    Great book if you want to lead someone to Christ.   Of course his books defend the Bible and draw people to investigate it further.

Well for someone who was only going to say goodnight, I've already said too much.

Goodnight


Love Ruthie

I just found this in Manna on SN, Will also post it in prayers.

Dawn Tucek - 05:53pm Oct 26, 2003 PST (#611 of 611)
Tucson, Arizona
I am posting this in "Have You Prayed", but I am hoping to readh as many as possible who will pray.

My daughter just called from San Diego saying the fires there are raging out of control. 10 people have died, 4 burned in their cars as fire is jumping the roads. Many roads are closed, flights are cancelled, people are being evacuated, many homes have burned to the ground. She lives in Point Loma, a mile from the ocean, and she said the ash and smoke is so bad that their cars are covered with ash. The original fire started in Ramona, north of San Diego in the mountains, and has spread very quickly.

Please pray for the people there that they will remain calm as they

Please pray for the people there that they will remain calm as they are evacuated, and pray for the firefighters. Amy said the firefighters have all but given up as the wind is strong and new fires are springing up all the time.

Pat, before I forget--again--I want to say thanks for the good laugh over the photos of the much-kissed Papa John!  I always enjoy his and Norm's banter so much!

Jenny---I am praying for your dear daughter Helen!  And (((hugs))) to you!

Marilyn, good posts today; thanks!  I so appreciated your call last night.  It helps to hear a voice!

Beth and I went to a movie at church tonight.  It was Time Changers and a really good Christian movie.  I recommend it.

Nards, I really appreciate your posts today.  And I hope that everyone has had their say now, and this particular book discussion is over!  It makes me nervous when something like this starts, I don't want anything to happen to our beloved CP, nor to any of our members!  I don't really think any of us is any more qualified than any of the rest of us to say what books someone should or shouldn't read.  (Christian books, I mean.)  If they get something from the Lord out of it, then praise God!

Hey, I am watching the KC Chiefs beat the stuffin' out of Buffalo!  They are going to be 8 and 0 after this game!!  GO CHIEFS!!!  (And this from a person who rarely watches any sports!)

Good evening folks!

Didn't have much to say today and still don't.

night
Sonja

Well I have been here all day except for when I was in church So I think I will call it a night. It has been a great day here on CP, lots of discussion and all with love. Nards Love ya Bro.
I pray that all of us will continue to love one another and our neighbors as oursleves.

Lets make it a point to "notice " someone new tomorrow. Perhaps a stranger.

Love to all and to all a good night.

Even'in folks.

Pat you are wise with your words.  Thank you.

I have read all the posts and the fire situation really concerns me as my dear friend and cousin lives in  Garden grove CA.  I am going off line to call and see that all is well.  I will be back if there are problems.

Marilyn that is quite a testimony.  Amen sis God is Good.....All the time.

Thanks for your posts!

I don't want to curb anyone for having their say in how they feel about a certain topic but just want to say that this should be done with love and special care.

In the past, I've learned from other posters about something I had no idea about and upon contemplating on the subject in my time of meditating on God's Word, I realized that one of you was correct and yet I didn't think that at the beginning.  This was good.

As Janet has said, I get a bit "nervous" too but at the same time, discussion is good--especially about certain books and I know that I can learn from others.  If I feel that something is absolutely against the teaching of our Saviour, I won't hesitate to say that and then I'll leave the decisions to you.

I remember Jack going to the Christian Book Store here in town and paying over $30.00 for a specific book that was going the rounds in evangelical circles at the time, just to have it as proof that a certain preacher was teaching false teachings.  He wrote in big red letters in the front cover of the book, "Beware, this book contains false teachings" and then he listed the scripture to prove it.  



Anyway, I've posted many photos in the FOOD CHALLENGE and also in the AUTUMN COLOURS CHALLENGE.  Mieka is going to call me a Picture Pig!  HAHAHA!


Now, the next time you hear from me, I'll be locking the door but it will be a little while yet.

It's that time again.

Hope I don't cause someone to lose their post!  (Sorry if I do!)

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