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Of course we all want everyone to go to heaven.  That is especially true if we have learned the awfulness of separation from the love of God - eternal separation in Hell.  

But remember the Psalm that says, "Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised, and His greatness is unsearchable."  The entire human race has offended that perfect God (Romans 3:23), and all deserve the separation from His love that must come.  Thank Him that He rescues some.  Thank Him that He rescues any.  None of us deserves eternal life with Him.  

Oh let's pray for every soul while they are living.  But we must love the offended God more than offending man - no matter who he is.  It's certainly true that a nanosecond is more than enough time for God to bring about repentance, but we also must learn to love God so much that we bow before His perfect justice, even when it is hard.

Remember the saying, "Only one life, 'twill soon be past, and only what's done for Christ will last?"  We need to add - "and only what's done in THIS life will last."  I'm sorry to have to say it but  Scripture teaches that there's only one place for repentance - here and now.

Thanks Al for that lovely reply to Mieka.

Mieka, it's a solemn thought to face death and the Lord makes it so clear in His holy word that we must be ready to meet Him as either our Saviour or our Judge.

After death is absolutely too late!  

I'm going to put a link in here again to one of Jack's "Walking in the Old Paths" that might help you understand this a little more.

The Lamb of God

We had a good choir practice tonight.


Janet: I asked the choir members to pray for Beth and explained the situation to them.

We I will check the other forums and say good night. I have been spending too much of my time on the computer again.

God Bless you all
marilyn

Mieka, I thought this little illustration that Papa John put in our practice area might make it a little clearer to you.  You see, sin separates us from God.  Jesus came and gave his sinless life on the cross in our place, to purchace our forgiveness.  The only thing required of us is to accept His sacrifice, and ask Him to come into our hearts, cleanse us of our sin, and be Lord of our lives.  But God isn't only a God of love, he is also a God of justice, and justice demands a penalty for sin--that penalty is death; meaning eternal separation from God.

Now, when we do accept Jesus as our Lord, the cross becomes the bridge across that great gulf, so that we may come into God's presence.  And the wonderful thing is that He also cleanses us from all our filthy sins and unrighteousness, makes us new and clean.  He says "If any man be in Christ Jesus, he is a new creation."

The sad news is that if a person dies without accepting Jesus, he never gets another chance.  He cannot go to heaven, because no sin is allowed to enter heaven.  No!  God doesn't want ANYONE to go to hell---but He gives us a free will, and we must choose where we want to spend eternity.  God never forces His will on any of us, we must make the choice for ourselves.

This is why we must all be alert at all times, ready to tell others the good news of the gospel.  None of us wants even the person we may like the least to go to hell!  So we need to always walk in love and lead others to Jesus.

Dear Mieka, I hope you understand what I am trying to explain here.  These things may sound harsh, but God is God, and if we reject His Son, then God will reject us, and say "Depart from me, ye worker of iniquity, for I never knew you!"

  Mr Moak and Ms Pat
I do not want for this to be.
There are SO many who never get to learn of Jesus.
It is not of their fault that they did not get to live here where they can learn of Him.

Oh, Mieka!  You have such a tender heart, which is precious in the sight of God.  But the Bible tells us that if a person looks at the things God has made, all the creation tells us He exists, and that no one has an excuse to say they never heard about God.  But because we do love others and want them to go to heaven is the reason thousands and thousands of missionaries have gone all over the world for hundreds of years to preach to people who otherwise would never hear the Word preached.

It is good you do not want anyone to go to hell.  Now what you must do is take every opportunity to tell others of Jesus' love.  Then you will have the joy of knowing that because you were obedient, other people will also be in heaven for eternity.  

In Luke 16, beginning in verse 19, you can read the story of the rich man and the beggar Lazarus, who ate crumbs from the rich man's table.  The story clearly illustrates that after death, there are no second chances to accept Jesus, because of the great gulf that is between hell and paradise.  Read from verse 19 to the end of the chapter and you will understand it better.  God bless you, Mieka.

Ms Janet I did not ever know of Jesus until I come to live here. I know of many who did not ever know of Him. How can they accepting Him if they do not even know he is there?
I am so sad from this.

 
But the Bible tells us that if a person looks at the things God has made, all the creation tells us He exists, and that no one has an excuse to say they never heard about God.

He is "I AM", yes? he is Jahova, yes? and many others...yes?
is he also Ala, is he Buddha?
are they all God? I have a fear to ask this, I hope it is not bad of me.

No, my dear Mieka, Budda is not God, nor is Allah.  There is only one true God, the maker of heaven and earth!  And He is a jealous God, who will not share His glory with another!


Mieka, it is sad, that not everyone will go to heaven, but it is true.  Now that you know the truth, you will be faithful to tell others about Jesus.  I know the church in China is growing by millions each year!  They may suffer, be imprisoned, and even killed for their faith in the Lord, but they still preach and tell others, because they know He is the greatest treasure of all eternity.  And it is hard to understand but true, that we grow in the Lord even more in the hard times than in the easy times.

You can also change things by being faithful to pray for those who haven't heard, that the Lord will send laborers to tell them of Jesus and that He died to save them.

Mieka, do you read books?

If you do, a really good book to get your hands on is entitled "Eternity in their Hearts" by Don Richardson.

It's an amazing book which describes what some missionaries found when they went to tribes where no one had been before to tell about the Lord Jesus.

You can get this book at Amazon and here's a link to it...

Eternity in their Hearts

This book touches on a bit of what Janet said to you

Quoteall the creation tells us He exists, and that no one has an excuse to say they never heard about God.

Mieka, don't be sad.  Be glad that you've heard about our wonderful Saviour!  And tell everyone you meet about Him.  That's why we mustn't waste any time.  This should be our "full time occupation" now...telling others about Him.  One verse in the Bible says, "Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel"  and so this should be our desire to do this to tell everyone.

  Ms Pat
It's an amazing book which describes what some missionaries found when they went to tribes where no one had been before to tell about the Lord Jesus.

And before they went there to teach them did everyone before not get to go to Heaven?
They all had a God i think, yes? but is it all the same God?

God sent His Son into the world to save sinners.  He would not have sent Him if we did not need Him.  We are absolutely lost without Him.  He alone must become Lord of our previously rebellious lives, and this cannot come about except through repentance and faith during this life.

Ms Pat I will have this book tomorrow ok.
"Eternity in their Hearts" by Don Richardson.

Mieka, I think you will have a happy surprise when you read that book!  And please go back and read my last two messages above, okay?  Thanks, Sweetie!

  I feel alone now. My most dear friends only know of Buddha.   will I never get to see them again? it was my hope.

Thank you Ms Pat and Mr Moak and Ms Janet.
I have a sadness in my heart from this. I have some shame from my words here today, I see I have much to learn still.

I'm coming in late tonight.  The questions our sweet Meika ask are so heartfelt.  I know I've asked the same questions.......and always I've come to the Truth, that Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.  He told us that, and is He a liar?   He said also, "No man comes to the Father, but by me".  Why would He say such a narrow thing, if it were not true?  Jesus came because we so needed a Savior.

Meika, my own father......I don't know that he is in heaven.  As Jaywalker said, we don't know what can happen in the instance before a soul leaves their physical body,  but I don't know. I understand your sadness.

 I would love to believe that the whole world will be saved, and in heaven.  It's hard for me to know that some will not be.   But I trust God.   I used to talk to Him a lot about this when I was a new Christian.  I would cry, would get angry, I would feel the sadness...and if you will take your sadness and always stay close to God, then I know that God Himself will speak to you and give you peace.  He gave His own dear Son for us....for you, dear Meika.  If His most precious gift....the life of His son....was not needed for our salvation, then God's gift would be for nothing.

   You are not alone dear Meika.  You are in Christ, and He in God..and in You.  Remember that.....you are never alone.   God will not leave you alone, nor leave you comfortless.  He will hold you and be a Father to you, sweetheart.  Cry all your sadness to Him. He will hold you.  Some things I don't know for sure, but these things I know.  

  You are loved, Meika.  and we are so blessed that you are here.  God be with you and speak deep into your heart.   love, nita

Mieka, don't ever forget that there are a lot of folks in here who love you so much.

I know that I'd just love to somehow get down there to California just to give you a big hug and hold you in my arms.  

But the Lord's arms are there for you too.  And He's so special--more special than any of us are.

Thanks for asking these very difficult questions and also thanks for those who have taken the time to help you as well.

God bless you, Mieka.

Now, it's time for me to go to bed and I'll chat with you tomorrow.  OK?  Do you have a date together??

It's time to lock this door now and we'll open the next thread but please feel free to post in there anyone who is still awake.  

I'm sure that Anthony will have some great words of help pretty soon as he'll be waking soon.

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