Beth needs prayer!

Janet · April 29, 2003, 11:11:13 PM

Beth went to see the endocrinologist yesterday, and he is 99 99/100% sure she has thyroid cancer. She will go for a biopsy on May 19th, and then they will remove it, whether or not it is cancerous, a couple of days later.

And when she stopped by to see her sister Diane today on her way home, Diane noticed that when Beth was talking and laughing, the whole right side of her mouth just drooped. So she came over when she got home, and I noticed it, too! So it appears she has suffered a stroke, or possibly has Bell's Palsy. I am just so upset about this I don't know what to think! Beth has had MORE than her share already.

Anyway, please pray in faith for Beth's total healing. This distressed Mom will appreciate it so much. I was so hoping she was on her way to a full recovery and a return to work.

Jane Walker · April 29, 2003, 11:29:23 PM

Dear Distressed Mom ... I know--oh so well--how you must be feeling, and I can certainly empathize with your concerns.

We serve a Mighty God, and I know He hears and answers prayers. This is small solace at the moment, I know, but you can be assured I am praying for Beth as well as for her mother and the rest of the family.

Father, please hold them in your arms and calm the palpitating hearts and assuage all fear. You can bring about YOUR WILL in all of us, as we learn to surrender to your control. Give Janet peace right now, and sweet rest in YOU. Teach us to trust You in all things.

Pat · April 29, 2003, 11:32:18 PM

I echo Jane's prayer, Janet. I'm so sorry about this news.

I'll be praying for you for sure and for Beth.

Marilyn · April 29, 2003, 11:45:20 PM

Our Dear Father, I come to you with a heavy heart, Our sister is in desperate need of your healing touch. Father I ask you now to cut off all blood supply to that cancerous? growth on Beths thyroid, Burn it out at the root, It is written that by your stripes she was healed, I am calling on you Father to watch over your word to perform it. It is also written that Your word does not return to you void. You are not a man that you should lie, you are Jehovah Rapha, you said that you are the God who healeth thee. She needs your healing power to go through her from the top of her head to the souls of her feet. Send your healing virtue through her right now Father. And in the name of Jesus I speak to that spirit of cancer and in the name of Jesus I bind you and command you to leave for it is written that whatever we bind on earth is bound in heaven and at the name of Jesus you have to flee. So get out of her now.I proclaim her healing now. Amen.

Sonifo · April 30, 2003, 12:29:49 AM

Janet, that is very sad news.

I will be praying hard for her and you and the rest of the family.
Sonja

Nita · April 30, 2003, 02:39:52 AM

Oh, dear Janet. I'm praying too......for Beth and for your family.

We know there is nothing our God cannot do!

We are here with you.....holding you, praying for and with you, feeling your heart.

Ruth Ann Bice · April 30, 2003, 08:58:45 AM

My prayers and love are with you all, Janet.

As a mom whose oldest child experiences all sorts of terrible health problems, I know the agony of spirit you're undergoing.

And, I can empathize with how deeply this is affecting Beth. I've faced biopsies, surgeries, and tests several times when the expected result was cancer, so I know first hand her fears, the emotional turmoil, the agony of waiting...I've been there.

I'll be supporting y'all in prayer daily.

Ruth Ann

Jerry L. Sowers · April 30, 2003, 10:15:41 AM

Janet ~ I agree with the prayers already said and I will certainly keep Beth in my prayers!

Etta Sue · April 30, 2003, 10:27:57 AM

The scripture about that he doesn't give us more than we can endure comes to mind when I read about Beth. He will give her strength and all her family strength to endure whatever she is facing. I agree with all the above prayers and thought. God be with all of you.

Cyberhugs to all of you.

Anthony · April 30, 2003, 10:51:52 AM

Janet,

How devastating for the family as a whole. As you say, Beth has had an awful lot to endure.

We know from scripture that His grace is sufficient for us no matter what situation we have to go through. No matter how fierce the battle, we are on the Victor's side.

May the Lord bless Beth and all those who are affected by this news.

Anthony.

Larry Hanna · April 30, 2003, 11:29:58 AM

Janet, I am so sorry to read of these new problems for Beth and for your family. I say amen to the above prayers and will certainly be keeping Beth and all of your family in my prayers.

Larry

Jeanne Lee · April 30, 2003, 02:17:29 PM

Oh, Janet! How your heart must be breaking.

Gene and I will be praying, too, for Beth's healing and for strength, comfort and peace for all of you.

Kathy · April 30, 2003, 04:15:38 PM

I, too, will be praying for Beth and for all of you as you experience still another trial in her life. Please keep us updated on how things are. You and your family are special the CP.

Al Moak · April 30, 2003, 07:33:13 PM

Oh Father, I pray for Janet and Beth. I pray You'll grant them peace and comfort in Your Sovereignty over all things and Your infinite wisdom in dealing with each of us. And Father, You know our hearts - I also pray You'll heal Beth of whatever this is. Oh do these things, Father, through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Janet · April 30, 2003, 10:31:16 PM

We spoke to Beth's Neurologist today, and he thinks the problem with her mouth is probably Bell's Palsy. We have an appointment in Guymon tomorrow with her Primary care doctor to see what needs done about this.

I appreciate all your prayers so very much. I am feeling kind of numb, but trusting our loving Savior to see us through this to victory.

Marilyn · May 01, 2003, 11:52:11 AM

Janet I am continuing to pray my faith filled prayers for beth. Please let her know that I will continue to hold her up before the Lord until those good reports come through. And that we Love Her.
marilyn

Anthony · May 01, 2003, 02:37:49 PM

Janet, thank you for keeping us informed with what is happening with Beth. We will keep you all in our prayers throughout the coming days.

Anthony.

Janet · May 01, 2003, 04:52:28 PM

The diagnosis is Bell's Palsy. They say it is caused by one of the family of viruses which cause chicken pox, fever blisters and shingles. Beth is on three prescriptions, and they hope it will clear up in 3 to 4 weeks.

BLESSING---one of her prescriptions was..............FREE!!! Have you ever heard of such a thing??? I never had!!! It said Price.....00
C0-Pay.........00 Insurance paid ........00. MUST BE OUR GOD!!

Sonifo · May 01, 2003, 05:05:51 PM

It must be God, Janet.

I am sorry to hear the news. I will still be praying for her. Take care.

Janet · May 01, 2003, 05:10:22 PM

Thanks, Sonja and Marilyn for your continued prayers for Beth. WE all need each other, don't we? I know I'm still praying for Zachery!

And THANK YOU, all of you who are praying for Beth. I will keep you posted!

Etta Sue · May 01, 2003, 05:32:37 PM

for a Free medication for Beth. Praise God for a problem that will soon be gone. Janet, my prayers for Beth are never ceasing.

Marilyn · May 01, 2003, 11:29:43 PM

Janet the choir at my church are praying for Beth, too.

Janet · May 02, 2003, 12:29:55 AM

Oh, please do continue to pray and thank God for healing Beth, and that the healing will be manifested soon in her body. The Bell's Palsy isn't that bad, but none of likes to hear that word "cancer!" so she still has great need of prayer!

Pat · May 02, 2003, 01:23:14 AM

Wow! That's great news about the prescription, Janet! Several of my friends are praying for Beth and praying for you too that you'll have the strength to go on day by day as you deal with this.

Anthony · May 02, 2003, 06:16:35 AM

It is nice to see God's love demonstrated to us while we are in such trying circumstances. Praise God for providing this free prescription. It is a strong reminder that God is very much involved with Beth and the family at this time. Just to say amen to all of the prayers that are being offered up for you all.

God bless,

Anthony.

Al Moak · May 02, 2003, 09:22:34 PM

I would tend to agree with Anthony that the free prescription is intended as God's assurance that He loves you both.

Janet · May 02, 2003, 09:44:50 PM

I do know that God loves us, that's what enables me (and Beth) to keep going! Thanks.

Jeanne Lee · May 02, 2003, 10:33:46 PM

Janet, although of course the need for prayer continues, there are two wonderful proofs of God's love and mercy - that it's Bells Palsy and not a stroke, and the miracle of a free prescription.

Janet · May 02, 2003, 11:00:56 PM

True, Jeanne! As I heard Shirley Dobson say yesterday on the National Day of Prayer program........"Sometimes, God just blows you a kiss!" He is so good.......all the time!

Carol · May 06, 2003, 09:35:29 AM

Janet: I come to the Lord this morning and ask for full and complete recover for Beth's health. Amen

Janet · May 19, 2003, 10:11:54 AM

Beth is in Amarillo today for more blood work and the biopsy. Please remember her in prayer. This is stretching out so long........!

Marilyn · May 19, 2003, 10:18:35 AM

Father I come to you this morning thanking you for cutting off all blood supply to that so called tumor on Beth's thyroid. I thank you Lord, that you have caused it to shrink away to nothing. When the doctors go to examine her I thank you Father that they will find nothing there, that her thyroid will be restored to normal. In the name of Jesus Amen.

Pat · May 19, 2003, 06:35:46 PM

Janet, will she phone you later?

Janet · May 20, 2003, 10:52:38 AM

Beth called last night from Boise City. She was tired, so was spending the night there at her Dad's. No news yet, they said a day or two. The waiting is the hardest part.

Ruth Ann Bice · May 20, 2003, 08:16:21 PM

Janet, we're standing vigil with you. May you rest in His wonderful peace tonight.

Ruth Ann

Carol · May 20, 2003, 09:03:14 PM

Checking in to see about Beth's progress. A free med - what a real blessing.

Carol

Janet · May 21, 2003, 08:03:04 PM

Beth called today to see what the report is, and was told the results were "unclear." So they are sending her slides to Houston, and it may be as long as two weeks before we have an answer. So the waiting continues. $:-\$

Pat · May 21, 2003, 08:08:41 PM

Oh, dear... I'm not a good "waiter".

Jane Walker · May 21, 2003, 08:22:55 PM

aaaawwwww

I'm not a good "waiter" either, but I will sure continue to pray for a good report.

Janet · May 22, 2003, 11:47:20 AM

Thanks so much. The only way I can endure waiting is to keep both mind and body BUSY. $:-\$

Etta Sue · May 22, 2003, 09:00:47 PM

This reminds me of 'hurry up and wait'!!! Beth, you and all your family are in my prayers.

Ruth Ann Bice · May 22, 2003, 11:23:54 PM

We'll continue to pray - for strength and peace while you wait, as well as for a return to health and happiness for Beth. She's been through such an ordeal.

May God's blessings rest with you both.

Ruth Ann

Al Moak · May 23, 2003, 10:42:45 AM

Oh Father, make Beth a great blessing in the future to others who suffer. Enable her to thank You for even these things because You use them to enable her to be a blessing.

Janet · May 30, 2003, 11:03:25 AM

PRAISE THE LORD!!! Beth's doctor called yesterday to say that she does NOT have cancer!! Hallelujah!!

Sonifo · May 30, 2003, 11:24:07 AM

Thank you God for answering our prayers!

Jane Walker · May 30, 2003, 01:57:21 PM

Wonderful news, JANET!

My prayers will continue for complete health to be restored.

Marilyn · May 30, 2003, 03:37:33 PM

It's all those faith filled prayers of your friends here at CP. God Hears our prayers and He ANSWERS them.

Janet · May 30, 2003, 05:15:13 PM

Amen to that, Marilyn!! And thank you all for those prayers! Beth continues to have mobility problems and hasn't been released for work yet. I'm not sure she will be able to work any more, but I'm praying that she will.

mieka · June 21, 2003, 01:47:41 AM

Ms Janet, it is my wonder, how is Ms Beth? I pray she is more strong.

Janet · June 21, 2003, 01:57:08 PM

Mieka, Beth is still having trouble walking, is using a cane to get around. Her friend John has been here for the better part of two weeks, so it has been a happy time for her, getting acquainted better with him. But he is leaving tonight, so it will be back to reality for Beth. We are taking her to the Dr. again next Thursday. Thanks for asking, sweetie!

Marilyn · June 21, 2003, 02:18:25 PM

I will be praying that all goes well with the Doctor on Thursday for beth and that she won't miss John too much. God has a way of working all things together to the good of those who love the Lord.

FrancyLou · June 21, 2003, 02:56:38 PM

I know Beth's surgery was much more serious than mine. I can sure sympathise with her. She is in my prayers.

Al Moak · June 21, 2003, 06:51:30 PM

Oh Father, I pray You'll work in Beth's body in such a way that she will look back upon this day to see that You've given her an entirely new life. Through the work and love of Jesus Christ.

Jane Walker · June 21, 2003, 07:50:54 PM

And I echo a hearty AMEN to that, AL.

Carol · June 28, 2003, 09:38:44 AM

What wonderful news that Beth does not have cancer!!!

I am giving a prayer of thanks for you. Carol

Janet · June 28, 2003, 10:05:37 AM

Yes, we thank God that Beth does not have cancer. She still needs prayer, though, because in spite of the back surgery, she still cannot walk very well, has pain and numbness in her feet and legs. She had another MRI (we don't have the results as yet) on Thursday, which they hope will reveal the cause of these problems.

She is applying for Social Security Disability, and needs your prayers that she will get it, and the process will be expedited. She has no income at all, and as you know, those bills just keep coming!

Thanks so much to all of you who have and are praying for Beth.

mercychild · June 28, 2003, 08:22:07 PM

Janet, I'm very sorry to hear all this, but at the same time, grateful for all the good news that is intermingled. I'm so very glad we can all have the privelege of praying together for her. We will be praying. God be with you and your family, and Beth. Jen.

Pat · July 05, 2003, 10:58:48 PM

Let's remember to keep praying for Beth...AND JANET!

Janet · July 09, 2003, 09:27:21 PM

I wish I were coming with good news; unfortunately, it is the opposite. Beth's doctor called her today with the results of that last MRI. There is ANOTHER ruptured disc in her back!

They have made an appointment for the to see a "Pain Management" doctor on July 28th. I guess this disc is the reason why she cannot feel her feet, and has fallen several times because of that lack of feeling.

She has appointments with two of her doctors on July 21 but I doubt we will learn much then. One is her Neurologist, the other the one about the thyroid problem.

Your prayers are so valued, and so appreciated. Thank you and may you be richly blessed for your generosity in praying. We love you.

karmat · July 09, 2003, 10:59:09 PM

I am praying for Beth. to see her pics, she looks so happy, and patient. I would imagine it is difficult to understand the "why" of it all, but that is where faith comes in, I guess.

Jane Walker · July 10, 2003, 02:10:35 AM

I, too, continue to pray for Beth, Janet. I know this has to be a real trial of her faith (and yours) but we serve an awesome God ... and He is in control!

Jane

Larry Hanna · July 10, 2003, 10:38:58 AM

Janet, so sorry to hear of the additional problems that Beth is experiencing. At least they have identified the problem and hopefully they will be able to do something to bring her relief. How frustrating this must be for her (as well as her family) to think she has done what was needed to correct the problem and then find a new problem with her back. I will continue to pray for her and for you all as you provide the support she needs through these trials. Does she live close by to you?

Janet · July 10, 2003, 11:01:13 AM

Yes, Larry, thankfully Beth lives here on our property. She bought her own mobile home, and is only about 150 yards away, so I can help her when she needs me. She rarely ever asks, though.

Beth has been getting up and going to the pool with us in the mornings. Just walking in the water is good exercise and doesn't cause pain like other types of exercises can. She swims a little, too, what she can tolerate. So she is trying!

Please keep her in your prayers today, as she has an interview with the SRS to try to get some temporary help until she can get the SS Disability. As you probably know, money problems can bring a LOT of stress!

Etta Sue · July 10, 2003, 11:47:23 AM

I am so happy you posted pictures of Beth. Now we have a face to pray for. Beth, I pray for understand, faith, guidance, perseverance ....everything you need to give you understanding of your problems. I pray for your family also. God knows all and He is with you always.

Janet · July 10, 2003, 07:59:01 PM

Thanks so much, Etta Sue. Actually, I posted a new photo of Beth yesterday!

Marilyn · July 10, 2003, 08:29:09 PM

Father,I bring Beth to you now in the name of Jesus and I thank you for her healing, for by your stripes she was healed. Father I also ask that you would supernaturally heal the disks in her back and line her up with the Word Of God. I thank youand praise you for her speedy supernatural healing.
In Jesus name amen.

Janet · July 10, 2003, 08:31:42 PM

Amen! And thanks, Marilyn.

Jeanne Lee · July 10, 2003, 11:38:59 PM

Janet, they are always our children, no matter what size or age, aren't they? We're keeping Beth in our prayers.

joyce robson · July 11, 2003, 09:39:50 AM

Dear Janet,

I just read about Beth's problem.

I am adding her to my prayer list.

I agree it is so nice to see photos of ones whom we are praying for.

Praying for you to keep up your strength and faith in the Lord for your needs.

HE is always there.

Reading your postings ; I see your love for the LORD so clearly.

HE will substain you.

Love in Christ,
Joyce

Janet · July 25, 2003, 07:48:39 PM

Beth has been falling again, she fell twice yesterday and again this morning, outdoors, and had trouble getting back on her feet. She had bloody knees.

But I believe the Lord did touch her, as the pain is less in her back now. Also, we are so happy she is finally receiving some help with her finances, through a government agency. This is temporary until she can get on Social Security Disability. I am still not ready to accept that she is disabled at the young age of 40, so I continue to pray and thank God for her total healing.

Continuing prayers will be so appreciated. Thank you.

Happy note---Beth took Ruffles to the pet show at the fair yesterday and won a blue ribbon! And today she took Cookie, and Cookie won Grand Champion, Reserve Champion and two blue ribbons!! Beth was pretty pleased.

Her dog Sindee is still missing........

Marilyn · July 25, 2003, 08:51:08 PM

Janet< I will continue with my prasyers for Beth and for her to find sindee.

Jeanne Lee · July 25, 2003, 09:11:46 PM

Beth is amazing! Most people with her problems would be sitting home expecting someone else to take care of them. But Beth, in spite of falling, takes dogs to the fair! And wins with them!!!

Janet · July 26, 2003, 02:56:39 PM

Yes, Jeanne, she keeps going! I am so thankful for that. I would really have a problem if she were to just sit down and give up! I give her pep talks all the time---sometimes she thinks I am hard on her, but after she thinks it over a while, she always comes areound to my way of thinking. I really am a strong believer in doing all you can to help yourself.

I must go to the fair and pick up my stuff. Later!

Pat · July 26, 2003, 06:36:38 PM

QuoteI really am a strong believer in doing all you can to help yourself.

Yes, Janet, I, too, believe that we should do all we can to help ourselves as much as possible. I'm glad that Beth hasn't given up and still fights on.

Poor Beth has been through so much.

Judy McKenna · July 26, 2003, 08:03:39 PM

Janet - I am so sorry to read of further trouble for Beth.

I agree with you. You have to FIGHT and not give in. I am so glad that I can attest to that as well. I was never one to "give in" to my pain. My dad was like that too.

I bet you are a fighter too, Janet., Beth needs a "boost" when her spirits get her down., its human nature. I hope John is the "encourager type" for Beth....is he?

I am really pleased that John and Beth have each other. Thats a great friendship, for sure.

Janet · July 27, 2003, 10:47:21 AM

Oh, Judy! You wouldn't BELIEVE how good John is for Beth! He constantly calls, or encourages her on the computer (yahoo) and she is doing much better just knowing that he cares! I thank God for John! Really.

Larry Hanna · July 27, 2003, 10:59:13 AM

Janet, nice to read about the joy Beth is getting from her dogs and certainly hope that the missing dog shows up soon. However, one must wonder if someone didn't pick it up and take it with them. Also good to hear what a boost it is for Beth to have a friend like John. I'm sure you appreciate his role in helping Beth keep up her positive outlook. Also gald she is getting some financial aid.

Janet · July 30, 2003, 11:15:46 AM

Beth saw two doctors again on Monday, and the news is not good. They are still concerned about her thyroid, want her to have another sonogram and another biopsy.

The other doctor is a pain management doctor. He said that in looking at her last MRI, he can see that there are many neurofibromas in her spinal column. That is about the worst news we could get. He also said it sometimes takes as long as 18 months for the nerves to recover from the type of back surgery she had, and that her pain is probably from nerve damage. He was very kind and told her he will do all in his power to help her get her Social Security Disability because he doesn't think she will ever be able to go back to work. $:-\$

He prescribed some new meds for her to see if they will help.

All of these things make me so sad.......I just never expected such a thing to happen to her. I must tell you, she is taking it better than I am! But I do not show my dismay in front of Beth.

Continuing prayers will be so appreciated. Thanks.

Marilyn · July 30, 2003, 12:04:08 PM

Oh Janet, I am continuing to keep you both in my prayers. Did you give Beth the email I sent for her on Self Esteem? I know your heart is broken for your daughter, no matter how old they are they are still your little children and our hearts break whenever there is bad news.
But Janet, WE will NOT confess this news to be bad, her healing will be progressive just as you said and just as we have prayed for. Little by little her healing will come. Do not be discouraged dear friend.

Janet · July 30, 2003, 02:27:33 PM

Thanks, dear Marilyn, I needed that! And yes, I did give her your email message, thanks for that, as well.

Jeanne Lee · July 30, 2003, 02:49:27 PM

Janet, I'm so sorry the news was discouraging. We will of course keep you both in our prayers, and with renewed vigor. Remember, our God is able!

Larry Hanna · July 30, 2003, 05:12:45 PM

Janet, my heart goes out to you and to Beth in facing this additional bad news. It seems that is about the only kind she is getting from the doctors these days. I will continue to keep you all in my prayers.

There is a fine book out by Rick Warren called "The Purpose Driven Life". It has a chapter called "Transformed by Trouble" and it points out

Quotethat Jesus "learned obedience through suffering" and "was made perfect through suffering". Why would God exempt us from what he allowed his own Son to experience?

He also says

QuoteThe secret of endurance is to remember that your pain is temporary but your reward will be eternal.

Pat · July 30, 2003, 07:23:25 PM

Larry, what good quotes. Hard to accept but oh, so true.

Etta Sue · July 31, 2003, 11:08:04 AM

My prayers are continuing for Beth and her loved ones.

Al Moak · July 31, 2003, 11:23:49 AM

Yes, Larry! Those are excellent quotes! Janet - Beth will, in all eternity, thank her heavenly Father for these trials here in this life. They are indeed hard now, but they will be used to produce eternal fruit! See Iain's devotional this morning - it's exactly geared to Beth's situation.

Larry - so very glad to hear that you are done with driving for those treatements every day! I pray our Father to continue to bless them to you.

joyce robson · July 31, 2003, 01:15:00 PM

I will be remembering Beth in my prayers.

Yes, it is so very hard when you see your children suffering; my heart broke when you spoke of you heartache for I, too,have been suffering with my daughter's decision for her life.

But, with the pain, I know my God is in control for I feel peace knowing he is there watching and "holding us up"
to continue on.

HE is an awesome GOD !!!!

Love in CHrist,

Joyce

Carol · August 01, 2003, 09:52:13 AM

Janet: It is so difficult for a parent to witness the pain of a child and I send my heartful prayers to both you. Beth and Darrell. Carol

Janet · August 01, 2003, 02:31:27 PM

Thank you dear friends, for your continuing prayers for Beth and also for Darrel and me as we walk this hard path.

Larry, I have been mulling over the quote from the book that you posted re Jesus learning obedience through suffering. It doesn't make sense to me at all, because Jesus was NEVER disobedient! So why would He have to learn obedience through suffering? I just believe that a loving Heavenly Father wants us to live in divine health, and that His will is to heal us. Why that doesn't always happen, I don't fully understand, but I just believe it is His heart of love for us to be healed.

I hope you take these words in the loving way I mean them. I am just trying to find my way in this dark time of Beth's problems becoming worse by the day, and I need to believe that God is there, wanting to heal her, even more than she wants to be healed. Please know that I love you, and I appreciate you so much, and am praying for your healing as well.

Larry Hanna · August 01, 2003, 06:58:21 PM

Janet, you have known me here and on SeniorNet long enough to know I would never take offense. I took those two quote out of an entire chapter of the book but didn't want to quote anymore in honor of the copyright. I only hope that my posting didn't cause you any additional pain or concern as that was certainly not my intent. I am so glad you spoke up about your concern.

Marilyn · August 01, 2003, 08:38:00 PM

Dear Janet. You go right on believing in Beth's healingin fact I will suggest that you go to the Precious Bible Promises and read the one we put in there on healing. Beth WILL have her healing. Remmember 1 Peter 2:24, "By his stripes you WERE healed". I think that Peter must have meant that when Jesus went to the cross and took all our sickness and diseases with Him that 's when we were healed.
Do not lose faith dear friend. Beths needs all the faith she can get right now, and that means yours and Darrels too.

Marilyn

Pat · August 01, 2003, 10:08:57 PM

Janet, I'll be continuing to pray for Beth as I have been as you know. If it's in the Lord's perfect plan for Beth that she be healed, she WILL be healed. Everything that our Lord does is perfect and we must remember that. God makes no mistakes.

I do remember though that every day, Jack thanked the Lord for his illnesses--and he had many. It wasn't in God's perfect plan to heal Jack. Jack didn't lack faith. But he realized that there was a reason (even if we didn't know what that reason was) that the Lord saw fit to allow him to have these illnesses.

God bless you dear Janet and I will be continuing to pray that the Lord's perfect will and plan will be accomplished in Beth's life.

It's so difficult to see one of our children suffer. I went through it--not nearly for as long as you have nor was it as serious--but I did have five years (two of which Ian was in a wheel chair) and I really thought I was going to lose him. We didn't. And for that I continually praise the Lord.

Al Moak · August 01, 2003, 11:11:21 PM

Dear Janet, I can fully understand your quandry at Jesus' "learning obedience by His suffering." Perhaps it would help to understand what was meant by the word "learn." As you say, Jesus was not ignorant about obedience. In fact, we read elsewhere His own testimony: "I do always those things that please the Father." No one knew obedience as He did.
But in this case the word "learn" really doesn't mean "learn" in the sense we usually understand. It means, here, "experienced." Jesus "experienced" obedience by the things He suffered. I'm sure you're aware that He had to experience all the things that we have to experience - for our sakes.
Nevertheless, we do indeed need to understand also that not all illnesses can be attributed to Satan. Of course all illnesses can be traced back ultimately to Adam's sin - without that there would have been no pain, no illness in the world. But now our sovereign God, Who has all wisdom, allows troubles and trials into our lives, including even illness/pain, etc. He even allows Satan to try us at times - all for the purpose of teaching us things we absolutely would not learn otherwise. Samuel Rutherford, the great Scottish Divine, said, "Wants are my greatest riches, for I have these supplied by Christ." He meant that we need wants, we need trials, we need illnesses and hurts because they drive us to Christ. All the saints of all time testify to this fact. They know that without trials our stubbornness, selfishness, and other assorted foolishnesses would keep us from seeking Him as we need to do. God knows us. He never allows anything but what will ultimately help us.

Janet · August 02, 2003, 09:54:28 AM

Larry, thank you for being one who does NOT take offence--you know none was intended. I really do respect you, and love you as a brother. Thank you for understanding that I am trying to fit the pieces of this puzzle together.

Al, and Pat-----I am "meditating" on your words, will be going to the Book and seeing how they line up there. I know you love me and are concerned, but sometimes we do have differences in the way we understand God's Word. I mostly (can't think of an exception just now) take it literally.

I know for sure we are told "IN everything give thanks; not FOR everything........." I will come and post again after I pray and search a while. Love you!

Pat · August 02, 2003, 09:57:57 AM

God bless you Janet... You are loved so much!

Marilyn · August 02, 2003, 05:03:23 PM

I hope I don't offend anyone by offering my humble opinion. Forgive me if I do, no offense intended.

I don't believe it is God's will for His children to suffer. I don't know of anyplace in the Bible that it says that Jesus didn't heal ALL the sick and afflicted. But it does say "And He healed them all".

Now God's plan is another subject, I don't know of anyplace it says that it is part of God's plan for His children to suffer either.

In 3 John 2 it says "I would that you would prosper and be in health even as you soul prospers. In Psalm 103:3 it says "who pardons all your iniquities; Who heals all your diseases. James 5:16 says " ...pray for one another so that you may be healed..."

Pat · August 02, 2003, 05:15:22 PM

And I don't mean to offend either, Marilyn...

I just have a question..

What would you say to someone who is a Christian who wasn't healed? Why wouldn't they be healed if it's not the Lord's will for them to be ill? Would you suggest that they didn't have enough faith?

Jane Walker · August 02, 2003, 05:45:26 PM

No, Pat ... Healing is all about GOD. Once we pray and believe, then "it's on Him" as my pastor would say. I won't enter any further into this discussion because there are so many different ways one can "understand" the scriptures. I will only say that we can certainly not question God's Omnipotence. Nor can we say anything about someone else's faith!

I think you know where I'm coming from with this, Pat. It isn't that long ago that I lost my daughter and there was much todo over this subject. Many even left the church. $:-\$

Marilyn · August 02, 2003, 06:08:31 PM

Pat I certainly would not question God's will, nor the fact that He can do anything He wants to do.
Nor would I question another person's faith. I do not believe it is God's will for us to be sick. However we do get allthese physical challenges that the Lord has given the doctor's knowledge to deal with. It is not for me to question how or when that healing takes place, whether on earth or in the glorified body we will get when our spirit leaves the old sick body.

Jenny · August 02, 2003, 08:12:11 PM

U.K. 12.45 a.m.

What is born of the flesh is flesh and what is born of the Spirit is Spirit.

I am the Lord Your Healer....... Beth.

"cumi cumi........ rise up little girl".

Al Moak · August 02, 2003, 09:54:18 PM

You said

QuoteIt is not for me to question how or when that healing takes place, whether on earth or in the glorified body we will get when our spirit leaves the old sick body.

. That's saying a gigantic mouthful! That's precisely what is meant in Ps. 103 when it says, "Who healeth all thy diseases." It doesn't mean that every disease we have here on earth is immediately healed, but it does certainly mean two things: 1) eventually - either now or hereafter they are or will be healed, and 2) Whenever a disease is healed, directly or through medicine, it is God Who healed that disease.
I'd also like to point out John 9:1-4. Here we have one born blind. It was definitely the will of God that he be born blind, not because he sinned, nor because his parents sinned, but in order that "the works of God should be manifested in him." In this case, the "works of God" would be his healing, but in many others it will be (is) the formation of new patience, humility, love, faithfulness, etc. God uses difficulties to form His graces in His children. Samuel Rutherford said, "Grace groweth best in winter," and "wants (needs) are my greatest riches, because I have these supplied by Christ."
Not that we shouldn't pray for relief (healing), but at the same time we should absolutely
thank God for trials, including sickness, hurts, etc.!
They are the means that produce growth. (Romans 5:3, Jn. 16:33). Oh may we not sin by refusing His correcting rod! Yes, sin entered the world through the temptation of Satan, and, yes, our present ills wouldn't exist apart from that fall, but God - GOD - is sovereign. He uses Satan, though Satan doesn't like it, to sanctify us.

JudyB · August 03, 2003, 01:14:32 AM

I have just come on line and checked in to see how Beth is doing. I have decided to add my two cents worth, and with the value of the dollar that may not be worth much.

Before I begin I want to ask "How IS Beth?" and What does she believe on this subject?

Now First and foremost "I Am the Lord that healleth thee." That is what the Bible says. That is what God says. What kind of healling and when is the dilema. I personally believe in a literal healling. BUT what about those who are not healled? Does that mean that there is something wrong with them, or their faith? Look at Joni Erickson Tada. I know many believe she hasn't been healled because she lacked faith. When God heals He does so to glorify Him. That is the only reason. So in allowing Joni to remain in the physical state that she is in, He has a reason. Now look at the number of peoply she can and has and continues to minister to. I cannot do that, I have never been cripled the way she is, and I DO NOT understand. So she is remaining in a wheelchair so God can use her to bring more people to him. Is she healled? YES! Do we see it? NO! ! Does God see her healled? YES! Her present life gives glory to the grace and mercy of a loving Father.

Pat, Was Jack healled? YES! Did we see the healling? NO! Does that mean he wasn't healled? NO! ! Did God see him healled? YES yes yes. What did Jack do during the three plus years, 3 times a week at the hospital? He testified to the grace and mercy of a loving God. God only allows what we are able to take. Jack had been thro' enough. God released him from his earthly ministry, only, for us who remain, to see that ministry go on through the people he prayed for!

Will Beth be healled? YES. Will we see the healling? I don't know. God knows and He isn't saying. When will we know? I don't know. God knows and he isn't telling!

Do I believe everyone will be healled? Absolutely. He has said I AM the Lord that healleth thee! But let us remember all healling will be done to glorify God. and cause His work to be furthered.

Janet my heart goes out to you. This is one of the hardest things a parent has to go through. I will be praying for you and your family as you walk through the valley. I will continue to pray for Beth's healling. And that God would be glorified in all that Beth does. Love you sis.

JudyB

Jenny · August 03, 2003, 09:24:38 AM

U.K. 1.35p.m.

Judy B. Amen! Thank-you dear for those words.

Last night I was thinking of Beth and I took Joni's "More Precious Than Silver" from the bookase.......in it she says:-

"I think the most epic of all miracles will be raising us up and transforming our lowly bodies into glorious bodies like Our Lord's. Talk ab out power that's personal."

Maybe like Mephibosheth we might cry out to God, "What is Your servant , that you should notice a dead dog like me?(2 Sam9:

We should know the answer. It lies in a story of love and friendship."

"God the Father invites us to His table to commune with Him, because He sees in our countenance the remembrance of His dearly loved Son. There is something about us, those of us that are Hid with Christ, that shows a trace of Jesus..little wonder that God delights to welcome us to His table".

Joni says not look at me for a healing in this body.....on one page she says:-

"Make a list of all the big miracles that Jesus did before He came to earth....galaxies, black holes,solar systems, law of gravity, the law of thermodynamics etc.,
Make a point of looking up to the Heavens tonight even if it's overcast, there's a magnificence, to it all. Contemplate how marvellous God's creation is, including YOU"

Joni talks about Jesus' little miracles which He performed on earth, so she sees things on a wider scale than we do. Certainly this woman is mightily used of the Lord and knows she shall be healed....in His timescale.

......................

"What is man that you are mindful of him or the son of man that You gratefully and helpfully care for and visit and look after him?" Heb 2:6.

JudyB · August 03, 2003, 10:50:32 AM

I read this again today. Jenny Joni is one of my favourite people and authors. Everyone should read Joni and Joni a Step Further I think they are called.

What we have, as christians, to do is be very careful not to add to another person't suffering. Each one of us have suffered, and in the suffering well meaning people, myself included, have given what we think are words of comfort only to have them interpreted wrong. Now rather than say too much of anything I simply pray. Even saying to some people "I am praying for you," can come across as a flip answer. We are not to be flip, rather sensitive to the needs of others. When a person is in the heat of suffering, they need a hug, even a cyber hug helps and gentle words. So many times I have had a heartache and had someone say I am praying for you and it has just left me empty.

I am preaching here I will be quiet.

Janet HOW is Beth? I do hope no-one has taken offence to all my ramblings.

Janet · August 03, 2003, 05:16:29 PM

I want to assure all of you that I am reading with a great deal of interest your postings here, regarding whether or not it is always God's will to heal. I will say that I believe it IS always God's will to heal. I base my belief solidly on the Word, and must go find the many scriptures that back up my belief. It is never my wish to denigrate what anyone believes, but I do feel sad that so many settle for so far less than what Jesus shed his precious blood to purchase for us at Calvary.

Now, as to WHY some are healed and some not......it is never the fault of God! But we can only believe FOR what we believe IN. And if we are thanking God for illness and poverty, then the angels of God must back off and think "Well, I don't know why she is happy to be poor and sick! But we can only enforce the words of her mouth, so we can't do anything to keep her from being poor and sick. We will just have to wait until she starts confessing health and abundance! Then we can get busy and arrange things to bring those into her life!"

I would never say that someone wasn't healed because he or she lacked faith. The Word says that to everyone who comes into the world is given the measure of faith. But what we do with our faith to cause it to grow and increase is up to us. And our understanding of the Word is paramount to the strengthening of our faith. Many wonderful, sincere, loving Christians have died needlessly because they didn't know that God WANTS to heal them. It must break his loving, tender Father's heart to see this happen.

I love each of you here. I just refuse to have my faith weakened (cannot afford it) by accepting less than my precious Jesus bought for me with His blood. Salvation includes: Safety, healing preservation, soundness and deliverance! And I want it all!

Please, those of you who do not agree, don't get angry at me! Go to the Book and look up every healing the scriptures talk about! Did Jesus ever say "No, I won't heal you, I'm trying to teach you something by this suffering. Go and suffer a few more years." He would no more want us to suffer than we want our own kids to suffer! He wants the best for us! For YOU, dear ones!

Beth is doing about the same. But whether she is healed or not, I will always know that it is God's will for her to be healed. She believes that, too. But she is a bit slack in confessing the promises of God concerning her healing, and since she is an adult, her Mom can't do it for her! We do thank you for your prayers and concerns, and I apologize for this getting so long.

Jane Walker · August 03, 2003, 05:27:10 PM

No apology needed, my friend. I appreciate your words, and freedom in speaking from your heart.

My love and prayers always, for you and Darrel as well as Beth. God is an awesome God! Though we tried for eternity to understand His ways ... we'd never make it! Ours is to simply trust that He doeth all things well ... and He loves us!

I, like you, stand firmly on His Word. God said it and that settles it, whether I believe it or not!

Jane

JudyB · August 03, 2003, 05:33:54 PM

Amen to both of you. I believe Beth is healled, whether we see it or not. I agree totally Janet.

Al Moak · August 03, 2003, 06:45:28 PM

Only one thing today. Don't have much time. My God is never brokenhearted. He is not discouraged. He is not defeated in the slightest. He has His way in absolutely all cases. He is not a man, and His ways are not our ways. When He wishes to heal, He does so. But I thank Him that He does not always do so, for we would absoutely not grow in grace if He did so.
Nevertheless, He does want me to be human, to be brokenhearted, to be sympathetic in the best of ways, and by His Spirit I can grow in these things. Therefore I will pray - and at the same time leave it to God. I do believe as Judy does that all Christians are healed eventually - there will be no pain, sickness, death, etc. in Heaven. Some are healed on earth, but only if it's for their best and the glory of God.

Marilyn · August 03, 2003, 11:27:45 PM

Amen to Judyb,Janet,Jane, and Jenny. I too belive that God is always the Healer. Jehovah Rapha, "I am the God who healeth thee" I stand onthe word of God

Julia

Janice · August 04, 2003, 01:46:25 AM

May I add a little bit to this discussion. I certainly do not want my views to appear to be the sort of commentary that divides people. I usually just keep my thoughts to myself, but I would like to express them this time.

My friend Sheila died of breast cancer about a year ago. She refused to have chemo or anything else that could have possibly saved her life. All because she felt the Lord had healed her, and she "knew it". It is so sad that her husband is alone, brokenhearted and sick now.

I know the Lord does heal some, and yet some others are not healed (on this earth at least). Even the Apostle Paul was not healed of his "thorn in the flesh" whatever that might have been. It was important to him though, because he asked the Lord three times to remove it. What was his answer? "My Grace is sufficient for you." 2 Cor. 12: 9. I believe this is one of the lessons the Lord has for us, to learn to depend on His Grace to be our supply. I can accept illness or ailments if I believe they are in God's permissive will, I could not refuse to accept them, for God is, after all, Sovereign. He is GOD! My creator, my Great Physician. He knows what is best for me. Must 'what is best for us' always mean perfect health? We might like to think that, but does God think that? Does He get glory only in our healing?

We had a young friend who died of bone cancer, and he had such a positive outlook during his illness. He said he was in a win-win situation. If he died he wins. If he lived he wins. What a blessing he was to those around him.

Lovingly submitted, Janice

JudyB · August 04, 2003, 02:32:36 AM

Janice I understand that husband's heartache. God gave the doctors their knowledge and the ability to retain the knowledge. He has given us medicines. To not listen to the doctors is not right, and refusing to take the medicine is not wise on anyones part. My medicine is making me feel a whole lot better, thank you Lord.

Jenny · August 04, 2003, 04:47:26 PM

U.K.9.20p.m.

Brothers and Sisters in Christ. Please................
Let no bitter root divide us.

Jesus has healed me of some things and not others.
I know I need to learn humility and I do ask the Lord to help me.
There is always a blessing in the "waiting" if we seek it.

Janet · August 04, 2003, 04:59:52 PM

Judy, Janice, Jenny and all who have posted here: The reason I waited and prayed about it before posting as I did was that I in no way want to sow any discord among us here. But God would not let me NOT post what I truly believe! I am not asking anyone to agree with me, only to go to the Word if you have a problem with what I said.

We are all headed to the same heavenly home, and will be together throughout eternity, so we best learn to get along while here on earth, right??

My "problem" is that after He has done so much for me, I feel the very least I can do is to tell others about it, and about what I believe He wants for us as His kids. Please do not feel I am upset with anyone......I'm not!
Well........except the devil! And he is under my feet!

In Jesus' love,
Janet

JudyB · August 04, 2003, 05:36:04 PM

You know I think in re reading the posts we are all saying the same thing, just with different words! ! ! Now lets all of us get back to the point of praying for Beth and Janet. Let us give God all the glory in this situation and out lives as He works His divine will in each of us.

Jenny · August 04, 2003, 07:42:56 PM

U.K. 12.15 a.m. (Tues)

Judy B. AMEN! SO BE IT!

Praise God!

Now I can go to bed peacefully.

Judy McKenna · August 04, 2003, 11:30:00 PM

I'm so happy to read that Beth has a new little dog, Janet,

Was there ever any news on Sindee? Is Meika the same breed as Sindee?

How lovely that Beth has a friend in John., now to me, THATS an answer to prayer, wouldn't you say?

Janet · August 12, 2003, 12:28:32 PM

Judy, Beth got a little Chihuahua this time; Sindee was a mini Dauchund. Yes, John is an answer to prayer.

Beth has another serious problem.....

She has a lot of trouble voiding. She has another doctor's appointment tomorrow about that. They say it is a "spastic spincter muscle."

We also stopped by the Senior Center and borrowed a four-pronged cane for her today. She was using a regular cane, but keeps on falling.

Continued prayer are appreciated.

Jane Walker · August 12, 2003, 12:34:13 PM

JANET~I am still praying.

Marilyn · August 12, 2003, 01:13:43 PM

Janet: I was so sorry to hear last night about the additional problems that beth is having. I will continue in my prayers for your iand in thanksgiving that in spirit she is already healed. These new things are only lies form the devil. In Jesus' name I rebuke all these problems that in the natural are cropping up.

Janet · August 12, 2003, 02:29:04 PM

Thank you, Jane and Marilyn!

ken · August 18, 2003, 04:59:12 PM

Sorry I have been away for a while. Sorry to hear about Beth. She is in God's hands and he is the potter we are the clay. I will be praying for her. God always knows best!

Bless you all

Jenny · August 18, 2003, 06:10:46 PM

Continuing to pray for Beth...

"His word does not return to Him empty"...Amen!

Jenny.

Janet · August 18, 2003, 07:07:35 PM

Thanks so much for your prayers.

We just got home, and the net seems very draggy this evening. I hope I can get into NEM soon.

Beth says to tell you thanks from her, as well.

JudyB · August 23, 2003, 04:39:52 AM

I am continuing to pray.

JudyB

Pat · August 23, 2003, 08:53:23 AM

Hi Janet!

I was sorry to read in another thread that Beth is having trouble voiding. I do pray that this problem will be short-lived. I pray daily for Beth, Janet.

Janet · August 23, 2003, 09:25:35 AM

Thank you to all of you for remembering to pray for Beth. She got another prescription yesterday (for urinary tract infection) but that isn't what they say the problem is. I hope it helps, anyway. Her appointment with the urologist is on Wednesday.

Jane Walker · August 23, 2003, 09:55:06 AM

JANET~I continue to pray for Beth, and I have Wednesday marked. I know you will let us know the results of her appointment.

Janet · August 23, 2003, 10:08:03 AM

Yes, I will, Jane. She has two appointments on Tuesday, and one on Wednesday.

I am encouraging her to drink cranberry juice and take cranberry capsules, it seems to help some. My problem is in trying not to worry so, and let go and let God! We never stop being Moms, do we?

Pat · August 23, 2003, 10:15:04 AM

No, we don't, Janet! We're always "Mums"! I took some cranberry capsules on the trip west when I felt there was a problem and they helped. I do hope that she will try this.

Etta Sue · August 23, 2003, 10:16:25 AM

Janet, sorry to hear about Beth and her now problem. With all of my urinary/bladder problems, I have never had problems voiding. Well, I have...but mine is voiding too often and needing to void NOW!!! Janet, I will continue sending prayers heavenward for Beth and your family.

Jane Walker · August 23, 2003, 10:28:52 AM

Okay... It will be added prayers on Tuesday and Wednesday.

FrancyLou · August 23, 2003, 02:56:05 PM

Beth and your whole family remain in my prayers.

Love, Francy

Jeanne Lee · August 23, 2003, 05:44:36 PM

I do understand Beth's problem - I was unable to void at all last winter, fortunately only for a short time. They decided my problem was "gravel" (as opposed to a stone), but the feeling of needing to "go" and not be able to is just awful.

Janet · August 28, 2003, 10:08:50 AM

PRAISE REPORT! PRAISE REPORT!! PRAISE REPORT!![/size][/glow][/color][/b]

Beth's problem stems from NOT drinking enough water! (She should listen to her mother more!

) The urologist examined her, and she has no neuros, nor other abnormalities at all in her bladder. Great news! He does want to do another test of some kind next month, but in the meantime, drink LOTS and LOTS of WATER!!

Her other appointment was cancelled because the machine needed to do it is broken. $:-\$

Thank you all for your prayers!

Marilyn · August 28, 2003, 10:27:34 AM

Praise the Lord

Pat · August 28, 2003, 11:08:29 AM

Great report, Janet! Thanks so much for sharing it.

Larry Hanna · August 28, 2003, 09:18:07 PM

Janet, that is indeed good news. Beth certainly doesn't need more problems and water is cheap.

Jeanne Lee · August 31, 2003, 10:16:48 PM

I'm three days behind again

but I add my thanks for the simple solution to Beth's problem.

Janet · September 09, 2003, 11:20:28 AM

Beth is to go into Amarillo in the next few weeks for nerve conduction tests on her lower legs and feet to see if they can tell why she cannot feel her feet most of the time. They were to do it on our last trip down there, but their machine broke. $:-\$

Jane Walker · September 09, 2003, 11:53:52 AM

I'm praying the machine is fixed and stays that way! Also that they will be able to help Beth with this difficulty.

Jenny · September 09, 2003, 03:37:41 PM

8.40 p.m.

Continuing to uphold Beth and your family Janet and I do keep an eye on the updates.

Jenny.

mieka · September 09, 2003, 06:43:53 PM

I pray for you all ms Janet, every day.

Janet · September 13, 2003, 05:38:53 PM

Thanks, dear Mieka! I love you!

Beth got bad news this week. Her Social Security Disability has been denied. How they think she can work in her condition is more than I can understand, but I hear that it is almost routine for every application to be denied the first time around. This will make it even harder on Beth, as she has no income, and now will have to hire a lawyer to help her get her benefits. Then if and when he is successful, he will get a chunk of it.

Please continue to pray for her. She is becoming discouraged, and I sure don't want her to get depressed. Life is hard enough when we keep a good outlook!

Thank you, dear friends for continuing to pray for Beth.

Jane Walker · September 13, 2003, 05:57:56 PM

Still praying, dear JANET. I also have heard that almost always your benefits are denied the first time around. I don't have a clue why! Obviously you need it or you wouldn't apply.

Anyway, I know things will all work out perfectly in line with our Father's plans and purposes for Beth and all concerned. Hang in there. God is still on the throne!

Al Moak · September 13, 2003, 07:27:04 PM

Father, I pray that Beth's reapplication will be speedily processed and favorably dealt with. Oh move those people through our Lord Jesus Christ, Father.

Pat · September 13, 2003, 07:47:57 PM

I add my "Amen" to Al's prayer, Janet.

This is in deed terrible. But I've heard up here too that it's denied the first time.

Marilyn · September 13, 2003, 08:02:05 PM

Janet she doesn't need a lawyer for the first appeal or the second appeal if it is denied again only after the second appeal does she need an attorney.

Larry Hanna · September 13, 2003, 08:17:57 PM

Janet, sorry to hear of the denial and she certainly needs to appeal. My wife found a lot of information on the Internet about that process so Beth might do some searching to see if there is information that is useful.

My wife applied several weeks before Beth did, I believe, and she still hasn't heard anything. In Georgia, the applications go to a State agency for determination. As she is eligible for SS now she did get her first regular check this past Wednesday.

Jeanne Lee · September 13, 2003, 09:13:20 PM

Janet, if Beth finds she does need a lawyer, she might want to look into getting a Public Defender.

Kathy · September 13, 2003, 10:10:20 PM

My prayers are with all of you and especially Beth. My sister had to wait almost 2 years before they accepted her. It was awfully hard on her as she had a teenager and was a single mom. I pray Beth will get hers after the second try.

JudyB · September 14, 2003, 04:57:40 AM

Janet, Beth has been through soooo much. I will continue to pray.

Janet · September 14, 2003, 10:37:19 AM

How great it is to read all of your encouraging words! Thank you, thank you, thank you. I will pass along your suggestions to Beth. Bless you, each and every one!

Jenny · September 14, 2003, 11:33:54 AM

4.30 p.m.

Janet the Claim situation for
disability Benefits is much the same over here.

My daughter had a problem getting help for my second grandson James. He has M.E. and they refused him first time and then she asked a Citizens rights organisation to help and they gave her legal assistance....The benefit was awarded second time round....

Prayers continue for Beth......
Hang on in there.
Right is on her side.....Our God giveth the victory.

Jenny.

Janet · September 22, 2003, 07:23:58 PM

PRAISE REPORT!!!!!

Yesterday at church, Beth was handed a check for $400.00. They said they just wanted to bless her!

I was told that in the board meeting, someone suggested giving Beth $100, and one member said "A hundred dollars is NOTHING! I say, give her 400! She has bills to pay!"

Praise God for answered prayers, and for unexpected blessings! He is never too late!

Marilyn · September 22, 2003, 07:30:37 PM

Hallelujah Praise the Lord for His provision.

Jane Walker · September 22, 2003, 07:56:13 PM

Oh JANET!!! this so blesses my soul! Our God is our Provider ... how often I have testified to this very truth... Bless Beth and those people who wrote the check for her ... Our God is able to do exceeding aboundantly above all that we ask or think! I know your mother's heart is rejoicing also!

Pat · September 22, 2003, 07:56:26 PM

What wonderful news! Thanks so much, Janet, for sharing. I am so happy for her.

Jeanne Lee · September 22, 2003, 09:04:38 PM

Isn't it amazing the ways our Lord chooses to bless those who need His help.

And what makes it even more wonderful is the fact that not only is Beth blessed, but so are those who gave.

Kathy · September 22, 2003, 10:41:19 PM

This is such a moving thing. I am glad that Christian people responded to her needs. Praise God!

JudyB · September 22, 2003, 11:05:17 PM

Let's sing!

Praise god from whom all blessings flow.
Praise Him all creatures here below.
Praise him above ye heavenly hosts,
Praise Father< Son, and Holy Ghost!

Janet · September 22, 2003, 11:31:20 PM

Amen and amen! Good is SO good. And I do rejoice that that little church will be blessed abundantly for blessing my daughter. Yep! My heart is overflowing with love and gratitude to Him!

Elizabeth · September 23, 2003, 12:36:32 AM

I have just read the postings and will pray for your Beth and also for you, Janet. May God grant healing to Beth and comfort your heart. God Bless, Liz.

Al Moak · September 23, 2003, 12:23:15 PM

Thank You, Father, for Your abundant blessing and for the joy we feel as a result. How gracious You are! How merciful! How lovingkind! Father, You are WONDERFUL!

Janet · October 21, 2003, 10:10:11 AM

I am so sorry to have to come here again, requesting renewed prayer for Beth. The numbness she had in her feet has progressed upward until now, she is numb to her waist! She staggers, lurches and falls a lot, keeping herself bruised and battered. Now she has started driving her car from her house to ours, a distance of about 100 yards or so, because she falls so often.

We are taking her to Amarillo again this Friday for nerve conduction tests on her feet and legs. Please pray they will find the cause of this numbness, and will be able to DO something about it!

This burden is much too heavy for us, and we do try to leave it at the foot of the cross. But to see your "child" fast becoming unable to even walk, hurts more than I can express. Thank you, dear friends, for your prayers.

Pat · October 21, 2003, 10:30:22 AM

Oh, poor Beth... I'm so sorry to read this, Janet but I knew that there was a need as I had Beth on my mind during the night as I was unable to sleep after my trip to London.

I've prayed today for our dear Beth. And I'm praying for you too, Janet, as this is definitely a heavy burden.

May you feel the arms of our Saviour gently enfolding you during the coming days.

Please know that I'm praying for you all.

Janet · October 21, 2003, 10:35:09 AM

Thank you, Pat.

Larry Hanna · October 21, 2003, 11:00:06 AM

Janet, this is very disturbing news and you and Darrell must be worried that she will fall and not be able to get up or call for help. I will certainly be praying that the doctors can find the cause of this problem and deal with it so that her mobility will be restored.

JudyB · October 21, 2003, 11:38:17 AM

Janet I am praying that the Everlasting arms be under her, upholding her, and keeping her safe. Like Pat she has been heavy on my heart. I pray for you and your husband that the Lord will comfort and give you His Peace.

Judy

Jane Walker · October 21, 2003, 11:50:20 AM

I'm here too, Janet ... I echo the prayers for Beth and I know our Father is able to do all things exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think! I will be praying for Beth today!

Etta Sue · October 21, 2003, 12:18:57 PM

In this world, we are not alarmed to see our 'mothers' go through with what Beth is going through. Mother's shouldn't have to see their daughter's going through such problems and suffering. As a mother, when a child sufferes, we suffer. Janet, know that I will be praying for Beth and all her family to find comfort and healing through God.

Nita · October 21, 2003, 12:56:01 PM

Janet, I am so sorry your Beth is going through this and for the pain you feel. I will be praying for you all.

Janet · October 21, 2003, 01:38:32 PM

Thank you all, dear frineds. These are tears of joy for having such loving and caring friends upholding us in prayer.

mieka · October 21, 2003, 01:58:09 PM

Just a (((hug))) ms Janet, and a many quiet prayers.

Marilyn · October 21, 2003, 08:35:50 PM

Oh dear. Janet I am so sorry to hear of this latest development with Beth. I will pray for both of you.

Dearest father, I bring my sisters before your throne of grace, Father you know this mother's heart for her child. Janet needs your reassurance and comfort of the Holy Spirit at this time more than ever before. Beth' condition has taken a turn for the worse but we know that you are able to do beyond anything we could possibly ask of you, So I pray dear Father that you will show the doctors exactly what the problem is and tell them how to fix it.I pray for speedy results to te tests and a speedy recovery.
In the name of Jesus amen

Jeanne Lee · October 21, 2003, 09:21:17 PM

Janet, what more can I say that hasn't already been said, and said better than I'd be able to express. Please know that we are keeping Beth and all of you in our prayers that you experience the loving, comforting and peace-giving arms of our Blessed Savior. He knows and He cares.

Elizabeth · October 21, 2003, 10:57:10 PM

I will also be praying Janet. Marilyn said it all in her prayer and I can only add my amen.

Al Moak · October 22, 2003, 10:49:32 AM

I certainly add my amen to Marilyn's prayer! Oh God, move us to give You thanks for the answer.

Maria · October 22, 2003, 02:40:32 PM

Janet please know i keep Beth but also you and your dears in my prayers
RIA

nards656 · October 22, 2003, 03:52:16 PM

In Jesus' name, Father, I ask for your healing hand to touch Beth. Lord, heal the numbness we pray. You are so able, you are our provider, You are Jehovah-Jireh, and we trust you in this hour to miraculously perform an act which we cannot even comprehend. Thank you, Daddy, Abba Father, for what you are doing and are going to do. Amen.

joyce robson · October 22, 2003, 04:00:41 PM

Well said, Nard,

My prayers will continue for Beth.

Janet; it is so very hard at times like these but you said it very well.--with friends here praying for you and Beth; you do not need to face this alone.

And , of course, our great Healer, himself, is here with us ; hearing and acknowledging our prayers.

Take care,

Love in Christ,
Joyce

JudyB · October 23, 2003, 02:31:27 PM

A big AMEN to all the prayers that have gone up for Beth.

Janet is there and update on the tests needed?

A {{{{{HUG}}}}} to all of you

Janet · October 23, 2003, 07:22:00 PM

They are doing the tests tomorrow in Amarillo. Prayers for a safe trip and good test results will be most welcomed. Thanks, friends.

Al Moak · October 23, 2003, 07:58:25 PM

Father, what Janet has requested is what we ask of You. Oh make it a very good trip with very good results! Through Jesus our Lord.

Jenny · October 24, 2003, 05:21:31 AM

Dear Lord Jesus,

I pray for a miracle today in the Life of BETH...

Thank-you Lord for what you are doing in Beth's life and for what you are going to do in her life..Amen!

Larry Hanna · October 24, 2003, 10:17:25 AM

Janet, I am praying for good news for Beth today and a safe journey for you all.

Marilyn · October 24, 2003, 10:39:18 AM

IU have been praying for Beth's supernatural healing and Amen to all of the above prayers.

Janet · October 24, 2003, 10:21:38 PM

After an almost sleepless night, getting up at 5 AM and a trip to Amarillo and back (about 430 miles) I am really weary.

We did not receive good news from the doctor today about Beth. My heart is very heavy. It is hard to see the keyboard or screen through my tears. After about 2 1/2 hours of painful tests, he told us she has extensive nerve damage, muscle atrophy, and lack of electrical impulse conductivity in both legs and both feet.

After Beth left the room I asked about her prognosis and he said it is progressive and that Beth soon will be unable to walk at all any more. And that there is not anything they can do to help her. I am heartbroken. I haven't told Beth this news yet; I don't know whether or not I should. What do you think? She is keeping a good attitude and trying to do all she can for herself; I don't want to do anything to discourage her. I just keep going around and around in my mind about it. Any advice?

JudyB · October 24, 2003, 11:59:42 PM

Janet I suspect she already knows. You will merely be confirming what her body is telling her.

My dear dear friend let your Lord carry you during this time.

Love JudyB

Jane Walker · October 25, 2003, 12:21:30 AM

JANET~Please be assured that He has already been there for you--both! He loves you far more than you can ever imagine. Let Him carry your burdens now, my friend. Take care ... and know that I am praying--always.

Carol · October 25, 2003, 09:01:56 AM

Janet: My prayers are for you and Beth while going through this test of faith. Peace be with you. Carol

mieka · October 25, 2003, 09:08:52 AM

Ms Janet,

I am not so wise as so many others here in so many things. But I do know well the pain of heart.

Many times I do not get asleep because as today, I have a very bad mares of the pain of past times. Even as I did have this pain, there is no pain more bad than to watch the ones I love in pain.

With this I pray you will know Ms Beth will be ok with what will be. I do think she must know what is truth. And I pray for both of you in this time of troubles.

Maria · October 25, 2003, 09:43:19 AM

Janet i pray that GOD you and peace in your heaerts
and power will give.
I know Janet what it is pain in your heart.
God Bless YOU BOOTH JANET

Ruth Ann Bice · October 25, 2003, 09:48:21 AM

I'll be praying with you, Janet, as you work through this with Beth. Most certainly, we don't want our children to suffer and we grieve with them as we do our best to help them.

While I don't share the same disease, the outcome will be the same - a wheelchair. So, I empathize both with you in your distress, and with the physical and mental suffering that Beth is undergoing.

Ruth Ann

Al Moak · October 25, 2003, 10:28:42 AM

Oh how deep are our sorrows in this world! Perhaps in speaking to Beth you can begin something like, "Beth, you probably already know what the doctor and I have to tell you. You know how my heart aches, but I have to tell you that the news is not good." I don't know, of course, why God has chosen Beth in particular to undergo this deep trouble, but He is honoring her with a frontline position against the enemies of pain and death in this world. He wants her to go through this in order to show everyone how wonderfully He can sustain us in and through trouble. He wants to be very, very close to her through the coming months or years of difficulty - to make it clear that He can and will hold His people through anything and keep them from falling - even then. He loves Beth - very much - and in ways we cannot fathom He will hold her close to Himself in the days to come.
And of course all that He will do in and through her can and will be done also in and through you, Janet. He can and will be very, very close to you also as you draw near to Him for help.
My prayer is simply that our Father will overwhelmingly enable you for this time.

Marilyn · October 25, 2003, 10:45:29 AM

Dear Janet: This mother's heart goes out to you. I know it will be hard to give Beth this news about her prognosis but rest assured that God is with you and the Holy Spirit will give you the words to say. Sometime I think we mothers take this kind of news much worse than the child it pertains to. She has more than likely given this much thought and already knows the future outcome in all this. I am praying for you both dear sister. Love You.

Etta Sue · October 25, 2003, 11:27:46 AM

I went to sleep with this on my mind as I was saying my prayers. I agree. I think Beth knows already....you and the doctor would only be confirming her thoughts. She has probably read about how her future will be through her cyber NF friends. God sometimes feels distant to us. But He is with us at all times. You may not feel his presence but He is there.

I agree with all the thoughts and prayers above...God loves you both. I love you both.

Jenny · October 25, 2003, 01:54:05 PM

Dear Janet,
My own thoughts and prayers are added to those of my brothers and sisters., for Beth and her whole loving family., especially for you dear. Cast your burden on the Lord and He shall sustain you sister.

"MY TABLE THOU HAST FURNISHED IN THE PRESENCE OF MY FOES.
MY HEAD THOU DOST WITH OIL ANOINT AND MY CUP OVERFLOWS"

Prayerfully,
Jenny.

JudyB · October 25, 2003, 02:59:08 PM

Prayer is still going up from this house.

Jeanne Lee · October 25, 2003, 10:18:09 PM

And from the Lee household, too.

Janet · October 26, 2003, 03:10:22 PM

Thank you all SOOO much for you faithfulness in praying. I know your prayers gave me strength yesterday, and a return to my normal cheerful outlook today. Yes, of course I am still very concerned, but I no longer have that awful black heaviness of spirit I had at first. I will just dig into the Word, and pray, and I do believe she will be healed!

The loving people at Celebration Baptist this morning told Beth they want to come clean her house and to build a ramp and a handrail so she can get into her house more safely. They are truly the Lord's hands outstretched to Beth. I am so grateful to them for their loving response.

Bless you all! We love you!

Ruth Ann Bice · October 26, 2003, 03:27:44 PM

I'm so very thankful for the way God's people seem to come through fr us. This week I was just reviewing the life of a friend who passed away. Without him (and his wife) I don't know what I would have done during Sherman's last illness.

The ramp will be SO helpful, and the assistance in her home will also be a great lift for Beth.

My prayers for her continue.

Ruth Ann

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