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Hi Neil...

Go over to Chester and take some of the city walls and the River Dee!  LOL

Glad you are over your flu!

Good day!  It is supposed to be nice here, but cold.  Nice=no wind.  

I thought when I read Lee's comments about feeling uncomfortable in church, that maybe he meant that if a pastor is doing his job, he will sometimes "step on our toes."  Then we have the choice to be offended, or to receive correction and instruction as we should.  Otherwise, I think we should feel at home with the local Body of Christ.  Like Etta Sue, if I always felt uncomfortable in a church, I would go find another one where I felt at home.  (Just my opinon, folks!)

I need to get started cleaning and putting up some Christmas things here, then I will get more into the Christmas spirit!

Until I figure out how to delete some things from my FTP, I cannot post any more photos.  Guess I will have to call my ISP for help.

Those who love in the Lord never see each other for the last time.

New King James Version
For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
1 Peter 4:17

Quote from: Janet on December 02, 2003, 11:54:57 AM

I thought when I read Lee's comments about feeling uncomfortable in church, that maybe he meant that if a pastor is doing his job, he will sometimes "step on our toes."  Then we have the choice to be offended, or to receive correction and instruction as we should.  Otherwise, I think we should feel at home with the local Body of Christ.  

I agree, Janet.  I don't think Lee meant that we shouldn't feel loved or welcome in our church.  I got the impression that he was adressing the issue of the Word of God being a "two edged sword" when dealing with the sinful nature of man.  I personally find that any time I hold myself up to the mirror of the Word, I find myself severely lacking.  At those times I become incredibly amazed by the covering power of the blood of Jesus.  Without the cleansing power of the blood, I have no hope at all of attaining perfection in God's eyes.  His Word shows how perfect He is, and when we compare ourselves to that, we will be spurred to become more like Him.  We will be "uncomfortable" because we will realize that we are not righteous at all.   I believe that's what Lee meant, rather than referring to the interaction with the people around us.  

Just a quick note on the subject of "being comfortable in church"....
About 25 years ago I had a sister in Christ who is now quite high up in the Anglican Church. She warned us against becoming "too comfortable" and that if we were "too comfortable" in church there was a serious problem.  God wants to keep us on our toes.  I agree with Lee's pastor that our "toes" need treading on sometimes!

It sure is cold here this evening.  I've just got back from a trip around the corner to the post box on my little jalopy.  I felt quite sick for a while.  Well I tested the waters and it seems I haven't go go out for a while until this cold snap is over.  Sometimes I get so frustrated with me!  I think of dear Ruth Ann at such times, as she is a sister "under the skin" and suffers with me.  Love you Ruth Ann...if you pop in today.

Oh I did see the final part of "Jesus" on t.v. earlier on...and the Lord gave me a gift of tears as I watched His suffering. I love My Saviour with all my heart.  He is wonderful!

Christopher is bringing fish and chips home for our tea tonight.  We haven't had them for a few months so I am really going to enjoy my meal.  Must go now and pop the kettle on. Pat, do you like fish and chips? Did you eat them in Ireland?

Speak later
Jenny X

Oh, Jenny!  Fish and Chips!  I love fish and chips but they need to be in paper!  HAHAHAHA!  With malt vinegar!

What memories.

There's a little Fish and Chip shop in Conwy on the main street inside the town walls and outside on the street, there's a sign that says, "Probably the best fish and chips in North Wales"!  It's so funny to see that word "probably".

Every time we went to Conwy, we made sure that we had some fish and chips that were probably the best in North Wales!  LOL

Enjoy your supper!  Or your tea!  What do you call it?

Pat It is 6p.m. now but we shall call it tea even if Chris gets here at 7 p.m.

WhenI lived with my Nanna in Keelby, Lincolnshire we had fish straight from the docks at Grimsby.fresh and not from the freezer container ships. Now it comes on big  trawlers.....we had skate, which is not available here anymore.  Oh it was lovely and those chips..Mmnn I can smell those "suppers" now.

Some nights my cousin Roger and I would walk down to the fish and chip shop in  the village.  It was in a cottage and you would wait in the hall while they cooked your suppers. One dark night Roger frightened me.  He said "Look a ghost"...I was terrified as the village had no electricity then and no street lighting. I saw a white shape in  the churchyard among the graves...and didn't I run and so did Rog. ...Years later Roger told me the truth.  The white shape was a goat.  The new vicar at that time was from Sweden and he drank goats milk.  His goat was tethered in the church yard.  It's an old Norman church, so you can imagine the atmosphere.

Hope you enjoyed that anecdote Pat....I am off to put the kettle on again..

Love Jenny X

Good Afternoon:

Our first snow storm of the season, pardon me fall is not over and first day of winter has not arrived, but anyway WINTER HAS ARRIVED AND THE SNOW BLOWER GOT A WORK OUT.

School Bus transportation in some areas was cancelled but not here.

Ruth

Oh, Hi Ruth!  Yes I heard that the Dufferin County board schools were open but buses cancelled to Primrose and other outlying schools.  Hwy. 24 apparently was a mess!

Oh, Jenny!  That's a hoot!  Your Roger sounds like Jack!  That's the sort of thing he would have done.  I remember once I was having a very serious weekend with my Pioneer Girls' group camping in our orchard.  (We lived on the farm then).  I was trying to get the girls to go into their tents to sleep and all of a sudden, one girls screamed and that started the whole group going and here was my crazy husband running through the orchard with a sheet waving around behind him.  I didn't forgive him for a long, long time.  We had to double up in the tents.

Our goat back then was white too and sometimes we wondered looking out into the field at the white streak running across the field!  HAHAHAHA!

(Hey Jenny, I'd love a cuppa right now!  Just milk thanks!  And a wee bit of the fish.)

This is for Jenny!  (And anyone else who wants to sing along.  I see Chris here so he can lead us!)








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December 2    

Trials and Pain: Piles of Ashes

Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful;
nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of
righteousness to those who have been trained by it.  
--Hebrews 12:11

If God has singled you out to be a special object of His grace you
may expect Him to honor you with stricter discipline and greater
suffering than less favored ones are called upon to endure....

If God sets out to make you an unusual Christian He is not likely
to be as gentle as He is usually pictured by the popular teachers.
A sculptor does not use a manicure set to reduce the rude,
unshapely marble to a thing of beauty. The saw, the hammer and the
chisel are cruel tools, but without them the rough stone must
remain forever formless and unbeautiful.

To do His supreme work of grace within you He will take from your
heart everything you love most. Everything you trust in will go
from you. Piles of ashes will lie where your most precious
treasures used to be. That Incredible Christian, pp. 122-124

"Lord, give me the grace to withstand 'the saw, the hammer and the
chisel.' I want the finished product; I often chafe under the
process. I submit myself today to Your working. Amen."

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Lee, yes, I agree with you as I know that you don't mean church fellowship, which we want to be warm and welcoming, a "second home" really.
What you do mean I guess is that God comforts the afflicted, and also afflicts the comfortable.
Some sermons are good but don't really affect us too much, while others make us sit up and examine ourselves!
Every now and again we should expect God to challenge us through faithful preaching of His word.
And if this never happens then either the preaching is not annointed or we aren't! lol.
Love to all,
it's been a good sunny day here in the Manchester area,
praise the Lord

Pat, thanks for that lovely song.  
Zachery and I sat here and sang it together.  

THEN SINGS MY SOUL.........................



BOY, AM I GLAD MARGIT IS HOME TOMORROW! LOL

What shall we do with Chris...Cheeky monkey!...Come home soon Margit, sort him out.  He's no good without you!

Pat, that was wonderful....I feel much better for a sing- along-a-Pat.  I really feel much uplifted especially since I had a talk to Jesus this afternoon and I said 'I wish Bob were here you always touch him at the right time...Bob is a retired Anglican Minister, a wonderful Shepherd.  Always at special moments in my life he appears.  He's retired now and I don't trouble him but the Lord tells him when I need him and suddenly the phone will ring or on more than one occasion he arrived at my the door. He conducted my husband's funeral. Anyway this afternoon I had a great need...and the phone rang tonight just before I came here....Yes it was dear Bob.  The good shepherd!  Now my cup runneth ov er and I can say "How Great Thou art.Oh Lord My God".

Ha ha...we have had some chuckles Pat about Roger and Jack and the "goats". It is good to laugh.  We are so lucky to have happy memories.  Some folks have nothing good to look back upon. We shall "count our blessings" yes dear? Not sheep tonight Chris..!!! Oh gosh, don't get him onto that subject again please. If he does I shall send him to the Isle of Lewis and let him count the sheep around Iain's place. It's cold there and Margit wouldn't go with him.Just imagine Chris huddled up in a cave gazing out upon sheep and rocks.. ..I won't bother.

Now then I hope to pop into Amazon now.  It took nearly an hour again to get on line.  My virtual memory reminder keeps popping up...roll on new Modem...

Love and God bless.
Jenny X

DO WHAT I DO JENNY,
LIE IN BED AND COUNT SPIDERS LOL
I GUESS MARGIT WILL GET DUSTING TOMORROW!
YES..I KNOW..MALE CHAUVENIST PIG  

Hello to everyone.

Jenny, I love fish and chips, but find it hard to read the newspaper they are wrapped in, too much grease.

I am looking forward to having them at least one night while I am in York for the Holidays.

Pat mentioned the Voodoo gravesite of Marie Laveau, and I might add it is a very popular place for many people to come to New Orleans.  We as Christians do not believe in such things, but many people do.  

I lived in Louisiana for over 15 years and have seen evidence of many Voodoo sites in remote cane fields and wooded areas.

 The following is my contribution for some humor for today. So Enjoy.

I do not know how many have ever heard this song about Marie.  The words, music and singing of Bobby Bare it is what makes it, but you might just enjoy the words,

Intro:
The most famous of all the Voodoo Queens that ever existed
is Marie Leveau, down in Louisiana. There's a lot of weird,
ungodly tales about Marie. She's supposed to have a lot of
magic potions, spells and cures.


Down in Louisiana where the black trees grow

Lives a voodoo lady named Marie Leveau.
                   
She got a black cat tooth and a mojo bone,
           
And anyone wouldn´t leave her alone.
               
She'd go URG................Another man done gone.


She live in a swamp in a hollow log
With a one-eyed snake and a three-legged dog.
She got a bent bony body and stringy hair,
And if she ever seen y'all messin´ round there,
She'd go URG............... Another man done gone.

Chorus
     
And then one night when the moon was black,

Into the swamp come Handsome Jack.
   
A no-good man like you all know,
         
He was lookin´ around for Marie Leveau .

He said, "Marie Leveau, you lovely witch,
Gimme a little charm that´ll make me rich.
Gimme million dollars, and I´ll tell you what I´ll do...
This very night I´m gonna marry you."
It´ll be UMMMMMMMM... Another man done gone.

Chorus
So Marie done some magic and she shook a little sand,
Made a million dollars, and she put it in his hand.
Then she giggled and she wiggled and she said, "Hey hey,
I´m gettin´ ready for my wedding day."

But ol´ Handsome Jack said "Goodbye Marie".
You too damn ugly for a rich man like me."
Then Marie started mumblin´, her fangs started gnashin´,
Her body started tremblin´, and her eyes started flashin´.
And she went URG.............. Another man done gone.

So if you ever get down where the black tree grow
And meet a voodoo lady named Marie Leveau,
If she ever asks you to make her your wife,
Man, you better stay with her for the rest of your life
Or it´ll be URG................. Another man done gone.

Boots

I will be back later with some sane talk.

                                                             

   Pat, Thank you so much for all your work and effort in keeping this site going.  

Please tell me the truth.  
Are you a twin?  
No one person can get as much done as you do.  

God bless you, Pat.

The scripture this morning is very good and touches on the corner stone of Christian belief.   John 1: 1-14 says so much we could study it for days.

I have this summary written in the edge of my Bible.

   "Son of God became the Son of man so the children of man could become the children of God."

Boots
Rescue The Perishing

BOOTS! JUST AS WE SUSPECTED! THE PAT TWINS....

Chris, I knew it had to be so.  

We better get both of them a coat.  
Boots

Quote from: Boots on December 02, 2003, 04:43:38 PM

We better get both of them a coat.  
Boots

Maybe some liniment for the aching back as well.... check out that motion!!!!

Nards, Yep that comes close to dancing.  I guess we can overlook that, as long as they do not get out the deck of cards.    

Pat, I promise this is my final wise crack for today...  oops had my fingers crossed.  

HAHAAAAAAAA
SHE SURE IS A BUSY ...

GOD BLESS YOU PAT  

Chris.  It's being so cheerful as keeps you going! It's past your bedtime young man!

Goodnight.God Bless,
Sleep tight...and Boots of course but it's not bedtime for him unless he's in York now.....Lovely place!
Boots...I am in Birmingham...long way from York.

See you all tomorrow.
Jenny.

YES YOUR RIGHT JENNY, GOODNIGHT ALL GOD BLESS YOU.

What a great joy to have a sister like Ivalou.  We always have the bestest times when we are together.  We laugh, we talk, we solve the problems of the world.  We even shed a tear once in awhile.  But we did have some Chinese and then shopped and topped the afternoon off with a milk shake at Steak 'n' Shake.  Ivalou is so funny....on the way home she said, 'Oh, I forgot my gift for SAMS Club next week and that is what I went shopping for!!!'  We do that all the time.  I think it is an excuse to go shopping again!!!

Well, I am calling it an evening.  

Maybe tomorrow I will get busy and get out my Christmas decorations...

Etta Sue and Sonja..........

I wasn't trying to open a can of worms.  We should  be happy in our church and enjoy the worship services.  In no way should we sit in church with a gray cloud over our heads.  That wouldn't be healthy at all.  I'm specifically speaking of the Word of God.  Please note that our Lord says much more about hell than He does heaven.  We are very sinful people and we must understand that our flesh is weak, and that we must not only be reminded of it by our pastors quoting Scripture, but also in our own studies.  Does not our Lord repeatedly speak to us of "Sin"?  We know why, because we succumb to it daily.  If we are not remined of the errors of our ways by our pastors, we just might forget we are siners.  Some churches never speak of sin, and they are fed "Warm fuzzies". Sure, we Christians are a happy family, but we are constantly met with trials allowed by our Lord.  It is during these times we grow.  That is, if we listen to Him.  Why would our pastors quote the following: "Count it all joy when you fall into various trials" (James 1:2).  Are we not told to acknowledge our guilt to God and then to accept His forgiveness?  Yes, there are many warm and lovely Scriptures that we can, or want to relate to, but most Scripture is telling us "How" we are to live. I repeat, if a pastor only speaks of warm fuzzies, and delivers feel good seromons, he's doing a disservice to his flock.  Allow me to give another example.  If a pastor teaches on 1 John 2:3, it can be delivered two ways.  One is a "Feel gooder", or Two, it can be delivered as an honest heavy.  The first is truly a "feel gooder" (If we are dishonest to ourselves), and the second is a stinger, and a reminder that that is truly us, and we've (I've) got to do something to change my ways.  If #2 is sometimes violated by us (and I violate it many times), then we must take the initiative to change our thinking and lifestyle.  In so doing, the "Sting" goes away and is forgiven, and #1 becomes a reality in our lives.  If a pastor delivers this Scripture as a reminder to his flock that temptation is always there, then we should be squirming just a bit.

I am home from my dr. appointment, The Bone density report said that I have some ( a little) Osteoporosis, so she put me on Fosamax once a week. I am beginning to feel like a geriatric, a pill for this and a pill for that. Osteoprosis, arthritis, etc. LOL Help me I'm getting old. well maybe in years but not in spirit.

Jenny I love fish and chips with malt vinegar. Like Pat.

TTYL

PS Lee I took a picture of the local golf course. Will post it soon.

Nards and Janet...........

Thank you.  You both said better than I could have (Did).