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Title: New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Pat on February 24, 2004, 11:50:32 PM




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Morning Devotional...


Jesus, Thou Son of David, have mercy on me.  And many charged him that he should hold his peace.  
Mark 10:47-48

After receiving a gospel tract distributed on a university campus, one girl read the title aloud for her friend's benefit: "What Must I Do to Be Saved?"

She then remarked, "How pathetic!"

If you are seeking God's salvation, you can expect opposition, even from friends and family. But continue to behave as Bartimaeus did, and find the Saviour--"but he cried the more a great deal, Thou Son of David, have mercy on me" (Mk 10:48).

And He did!
--Wade LeBlanc, Sr.



My old companions, fare you well,
I will not go with you to hell;
I mean with Jesus Christ to dwell,
I will go.
--Newton





Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Pat on February 25, 2004, 12:20:14 AM


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Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: nards656 on February 25, 2004, 12:20:26 AM
Hey! I'm first two days in a row!  Hello all!

Thanks so much, Pat, for the card.  That is really beautiful.

I can only weep for us.  He is so much happier.  He had a loving wife, a daughter, two sons, and a very dear friend of many years that proceeded him in death.  While I don't profess to know and understand all about how much we will "know" each other on the other side, just the knowledge that he is with them praising Jesus is enough for me.  The scene in Heaven can only be joyous :)

Thanks again.  Prayers are appreciated.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Pat on February 25, 2004, 12:22:46 AM

Hi Nards!
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: nards656 on February 25, 2004, 12:24:20 AM
Hi, Pat!  I modified the post above, so you better refresh if you haven't seen the modified version.

God bless you, sis.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: JudyB on February 25, 2004, 12:59:55 AM
Sorry to hear of your loss Karma and Nards.  There is sorrow and rejoicing at the same time!  Sounds strange to non-believers.

I am so excited about tomorrow night that I cannot believe it.  We are heading to Sudbury at about 4:00 from North Bay, we have our tickets and will grab a Wendy's on the way.  The Passion is coming to North Bay on Friday.  So when John gets home he will go to see it as well.

Pat that midi was great.  The oil tank thing will work out.  Our oil company is willing to work with us, and help us save money.  John called them today and got all the facts, and things are not as harsh as we first were told.  It is interesting that things always come in seasons.  When we get through this rough season all will be well for the next season.  With all the disapointments and stressors we know that God is on the Throne and all will work out His way and in His timing.  

The verse (Larry, Papa John) His ways are not our ways.  Don't you wish sometimes you could have a peep into what he sees?  I am sure a lot of broken hearts.  

Well that is all for now
Love Judy
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Nita on February 25, 2004, 01:37:41 AM
Nards and Karma.  I'm so sorry for your loss, and just have to smile at heaven's gain.  Sadness on our side, but rejoicing just beyond.  I'm praying for your family.

It's 10:43 pm here, Marilyn, and still as can be.  Maybe the storm will hit south of us.  We've had some rain, but nothing unusual.  We had sunshine today too.  I'm heading for bed now, and I guess if it gets wild, I'll wake up.  :)


Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Maria on February 25, 2004, 04:09:28 AM
GOOD MORNING  9.53 in HOLLAND

FIRST MY DEEPEST SYMPATHY  NARDS AND KARMAT
MY PRAYERS ARE FOR YOU NARDS AND KARMAT AND FOR
YOUR MOTHER NARDS.


Pat thank you for the devotional this morning and the nice hyms yesterday
"FOOTSTEPS OF JESUS" and "ROSE OF SHARON


I am early this morning because i must to the doctor for a new bandage on my toe
i hope that i now may have a little bandage but i think it not.


It is sunny in Holland but cold and we can get snowshowers and hail today.

My husband must to the hospital on
March 8 for his snoring. He has used a lot things spray
tablets something over his nose nothing is helping him
now he must to the hospital for something for snoring
but that they only do in the hospital.


Luke 11.10
Everyone who ask receives;
he who seeks finds; and to him who
knocks, the door will be opened.


    GOD WILL GUIDE
  If we search, God will guide.
      If we pray, He will hear.
  If we need, He will provide.
  If we reach, He will draw near.


I wish you all a Blessed Day
Bye love Ria
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Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Jenny on February 25, 2004, 05:44:28 AM
10.20 a.m. U.K.

Good morning Everyone.

Hallo Ria.. ;)

Hello Judy.

Crisp and sunny describes this little spot in Birmingham, England this morning.  Indeed very crisp, just another way of saying Brrr!

I received my March copy of "Christian Witness to Israel Herald" this morning.  There is an article re Mel Gibson and his film from the Jewish perspective. I will not expound on it here.  I don't expect to see the film myself., circumstances do not permit...

"However he (Mel) has admitted that his screenplay was based not so much on the Gospels as on the mystical visions of Anne Catherine Emmerich (a Stigmatist) whose reinterpretation of the passion included many details not found in the Gospels.These details it is claimed are the source of much of the anti-Semitic content of the original screen play, if not the final film.....This has led the critical scholars to cry out "Scripture alone"...shows a negative picture of Jewish society and leadership...Mel Gibson of course,  has his agenda too.  His project, funded largely from his own cheque book, appears to be a traditional act of Roman Catholic devotion.  Just as Medieval Kings built cathedrals and commissioned great works of art depicting the crucifixion, a Hollywood superstar is now offering his own substantial contribution .
"The Passion of Christ" looks to be an artistic tour-de-force, cinemagoers will do doubt be deeply moved by the experience of seeing it and the controversy surrounding the movie will be with us for some time to come."  (Howard Fleming(Gen Sec C.W.I.)and Mike Moore.)


The Lord Jesus Bless and Keep..
Jenny
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Sarah on February 25, 2004, 08:50:28 AM
Morning just stopping by before i have to leave for school don't hve too long so i bettered get going ttyl
Sarah
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: JudyB on February 25, 2004, 09:05:16 AM
Good Morning everyine.  It is -5*C here and there is a light snowfall coming down.  Well we are seasoned winter drivers so we will be alright.

I had a rough night last night.  Have a real bad headache.  Time for a cup of tea snd that will help end it.  

Jake is outside and is ir ever fun to watch him.. Our neighbour has a big bushy beard and a dog Jake hates.  Is it ever funny to watch him stand guard on our front porch watching every move Donny makes.  If the dog would even think of walking across the road, Jake barks and sends the neighbours running with his tail between his legs.  We get a kick out of his antics.

Rachelle Haven't seen you in the last few days, How are things going?

Well bye for now, I have to call Mother.

Love Judy
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: nards656 on February 25, 2004, 09:19:32 AM
Quote from: Jenny on February 25, 2004, 05:44:28 AM
10.20 a.m. U.K.

"However he (Mel) has admitted that his screenplay was based not so much on the Gospels as on the mystical visions of Anne Catherine Emmerich (a Stigmatist) whose reinterpretation of the passion included many details not found in the Gospels.

I've not heard this particular evaluation before.  That's interesting.  I do understand that there are a lot of things "added" that perhaps were not the kind of the things the gospel writers would record - Mary's thoughts, memories, the viewpoints of other characters.  

Yes, Mel is a Catholic, and that carries a heavy insinuation that he is doing this as a religious deed in itself.  

I really hope that the message of the cross is not buried in an avalanche of false concerns about anti-Semitism and Catholic "agendas".  

I find it curious, and almost humorous, that Jesus died on a ROMAN cross, and now a ROMAN Catholic has dramatized it in such a high profile manner.  
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Etta Sue on February 25, 2004, 09:33:51 AM
I am so sorry to hear of Nard and Karma's loss of Nard's grandfather.  I loved it when you said 'celebration'.  I believe this is the time to celebrate ones life and not dwell on the death.  What a wonderful thought of Nard's grandfather running on the golden streets of heaven.  He is free of pain and suffering and is having a time of his life!  He is celebrating his first day of eternal life.  My thoughts and prayers will be with you in the coming days.

Jenny ~
QuoteHowever he (Mel) has admitted that his screenplay was based not so much on the Gospels as on the mystical visions of Anne Catherine Emmerich (a Stigmatist) whose reinterpretation of the passion included many details not found in the Gospels.These details it is claimed are the source of much of the anti-Semitic content of the original screen play, if not the final film.....
I had never heard anything like this before.  In fact, the opposite.  He said it is based on the four Gospels.  Perhaps a Catholics interpretation but on the four Gospels.  He previewed the movie to several hundred, perhaps thousands of people to be sure it was true to the Gospels.  It amazes me how there are so many interpretations of 'The Passion of the Christ' and it isn't even out yet.  Well, it is today!  But you know what I mean.  If the ones who are having a problem with this film would realize that Christians will not put the blame of Christ's death on anyone but themselves then there would be no controversy.  It is said that 80% of Americans are Christians.  That's a big chunk of people who will know that all mankind is who killed Jesus Christ.  Perhaps, just perhaps, and MHO, maybe those who have a controversy feels guilty because it was the Jews who physically killed Jesus but spititually, we all killed Jesus.

And I have to wait until Saturday to see the film.   :'(

I received this in an email today.  The pictures are wonderful.  The message is wonderful and the music in the backgound is great, too.  Check it out on

http://wonderofitall.com/

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Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Jenny on February 25, 2004, 09:54:50 AM
Etta Sue

Thank you...Oh , the sheer wonder of it all!

More wonderful still that Jesus died for  me and He lives in me....Amazing grace!




Karma and Bernard

God bless you both at this time.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: nards656 on February 25, 2004, 10:33:34 AM
Thanks so much to all of you for the kind words :)
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Sonifo on February 25, 2004, 10:35:31 AM
"You have to remind yourself, you're not taking care of your family, God is. And if you put God first, He'll take care of you better than you can imagine"
-country music singer Paul Brandt

Karma and Bernards, I am sorry for your loss, but happy he is up in Heaven with Jesus.  That is awesome.  I will keep your family in my prayers this week.

Our radio statio out of Rapid City has seen the movie (The Passion of Christ) and were talking about it this morning.  There is so much talk about this movie that I pray it causes everyone to go see it just to see what the talk is about and when the do I pray they feel the presence of God.  
I am excited to see it tonight.


We did get Zachery on a new medication, so hopefully he will be on the road to recovery now.  
Thanks all for the prayers.  :D

I am in the process of moving things around the house and doing laundry so I better get going or I will never get done.

Later folks.
Love
Soni
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Mullet on February 25, 2004, 10:51:56 AM
Good morning everyone!  

We are going to go see "The Passion of Christ" today. On KSLT 107.3 they are talking about the sneek premovie of the movie. Thery said that the people that clean t he theater after the movie was shown were suprised to see the looks and what he people were doing after the movie. Some people stayed in there seets praying, and or leaving awe strickin.
THere was a lady there that brang here friend who was a budhist, her friend said that the buda never whent through that much torture for them and that she would pick Christ over buda.



Well I'm Off for now

bye all

Zachery
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Janet on February 25, 2004, 10:55:32 AM
Jenny, I  have watched "The Making of the Passion" three times now, and listened to two separate interviews with Mel Gibson, and NOTHING like the quote you put in was mentioned!  I think, as Mel himself said, "there is a lot of opposition....a LOT of opposition."  While he didn't say so specifically, I felt he was attributing this opposition to our chief enemy, the devil, who hates having Jesus glorified in any way, let alone in this way that has the entire world watching.  I believe Mel Gibson is a born again Catholic, and his intent in making this movie is to give God the glory.  When asked what he hoped it will cause people to do, he answered, "I hope it will cause them to READ THE BOOK!!"  (Emphasis mine.)

I am really looking forward to reading the comments of everyone who attends the movie---all ages.  I pray we will all be changed by the experience.

I got in my half-mile swim this morning! ;D  I feel so much better when I get my exercise!

I think I will open my card reader and start reading the instructions........... ::)
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Janet on February 25, 2004, 10:58:12 AM
Hi, Zachery!  We were posting at the same time!  I look forward to your comments on the movie tomorrow.  My prayer is it will cause many to turn to Jesus for salvation.  Great to see you today!  ((((hugs))))
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Jenny on February 25, 2004, 11:35:08 AM


JanetI pray that the Lord will use it for His glory .

I owe much to the Roman Catholic Church and I thank God for dear Saint Francis and Saint Pio. I am not in any way ashamed to own that.

My quote was as I said a quote from the Missionaries to Israel.

"The Glory of the Gospel is not simply that the Messsiah suffered but that He suffered for us."

Zach and all of you
Enjoy the film...

Jenny.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Lee Kirkwood on February 25, 2004, 12:23:21 PM
Etta Sue.........

Like most everyone else, I've not heard where Mel Gibson has injected anything unscriptural into his film other than perhaps flash backs to Jesus' youth.  If he has, anything other than the single event when He was twelve years old would be fiction.  If Mel speaks of their journey to Bethlehem, or to Egypt, then we know these things to be true to the Gospels.  You made mention that you've heard that 80% of Americans are Christians.  I don't doubt you heard it, but I strongly disagree with the poll, as Jesus has said that "Few" will enter the kingdom of heaven."  The 80% most likely comes from a secular source who believes everyone who isn't a Jew, Muslim, Shinto, etc.  Actually, church goers are in the minority and most folks stay home on Sunday.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Larry Hanna on February 25, 2004, 12:27:18 PM
Hi everyone.  I have a full day but wanted to post before the day got away.  

Nards, I send my condolences to you, your mother and all your family.  It is always difficult to lose a dear loved one even when we know it is time for them to be called home to end this eartly suffering.  

The funeral of a friend I attended yesterday was truly a celebration of the man's life.  He and his wife had been married for 55 years.  

I did watch about half of the program on PAX TV last night on the making of the Mel Gibson movie.  We will likely go to see it but not right away.  

Janet, hope the card reader solves the problems you are having getting your photos onto your computer.

Zachery, I will be interested to read your comments on the movie.  Sonja, glad that you will be attending at the same time.  Do hope the new meds do the trick to get rid of the infection for Zachery.

Ria, hope the doctor finds that your toe is healing quickly.

Pat, I really liked that little verse at the end of the devotional today.  Makes one think.

JudyB, glad to hear that things are working out with the oil tank and that Melaura solved the problem with the water pump.  I know these things can be so frustrating.

Marilyn, I hope you didn't get blown away during the night.  I see you haven't posted yet today so wonder if you lost power.

The saga of car repair continues with the car my daughter drives.  We took it in yesterday morning and they still have it but should be hearing from them sometime today.  Unfortunately the parts that we thought were going to be around $220 were not the right parts and the actual parts, the catalytic converters, will cost over $700 plus the labor.  I need a month without car repair.  However, if I don't get it fixed I can't get the tags for the car so really had no choice as don't want to get another car at this point.

We will be leaving for Florida very early in the morning and plan to do the 10 hour drive to St. Petersburg.  The entire trip is by Interstate so isn't difficult driving.  We are suppose to have sleet and much colder weather her this evening but they don't think it will get too bad.  If it is slick in the morning we will delay our departure and then not go all the way tomorrow.  I plan to take my laptop so should be able to check in from down there but if I don't post until about next Tuesday don't worry about me as we are just having too good a time at the cousin's reunion in St. Pete.  There will only be 10 of us this year rather than the 14 we have had in previous years.  One of the two aunts, the one we planned to pick up in Orlando, is not feeling well and was in the hospital last weekend, so she is not going to be able to attend.



Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Elizabeth on February 25, 2004, 12:39:43 PM
Jenny, you are not alone in having read that.  I also read some of the ugly language Mel Gibson used to describe a critic of his film.  Not the words of any Christian that I know.  Guess this one is up to God, not man.  My prayer is that the non-Christians will not be permanently damaged by the publicity.  My son-in-law is a Catholic and I understand he leaves the room in digust when it is mentioned.  

God Bless.  Liz
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Maria on February 25, 2004, 01:02:56 PM
Larry the doctor has put the bandage away and i have again had a blooding now i have again a big bandage on my toe.
But it is so cold in Holland for summershoes now it is -2*C. The nail put away was nothing but this not.


ETTA SUE that is a very lovely email they you have receive and put on CP
thank you for that.

Bye love Ria  it is evening in Holland 7.02PM
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Mullet on February 25, 2004, 01:05:50 PM
Hello again! Ithought I would change my profile I  hope everyone likes it.

HEHEHEH

Zachery
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Jenny on February 25, 2004, 01:22:37 PM


Pat Oh thank-you dear sister.

You played me "Rose of Sharon" to send me to sleep last night and I only just saw the post..N ow I know why I had a warm comfy sleep.

I Love you sister.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: JudyB on February 25, 2004, 01:29:06 PM
PRODUCT RECALL
The Maker of all human beings is recalling all units manufactured,
regardless of make or year, due to the serious defect in the primary
and central component of the heart. This is due to a malfunction in the original prototype units code named Adam and Eve, resulting in the reproduction of the same defect in all subsequent units.  This defect
has been technically termed, "Sub-sequential Internal Non-morality,"
or more commonly known as SIN as it is primarily expressed:

Some other symptoms:

[a] Loss of direction
Foul vocal emissions
[c] Amnesia of origin
[d] Lack of peace and joy
[e] Selfish, or violent behavior
[f] Depression or confusion in the mental component
[g] Fearfulness
[h] Idolatry
Rebellion

The Manufacturer, Who is neither liable nor at fault for this defect, is providing factory authorized repair and service free of charge to correct this SIN defect. The Repair Technician, Jesus, has most generously offered to bear the entire burden of the staggering cost of these repairs.

There is no additional fee required. The number to call for repair in all areas is: P-R-A-Y-E-R. Once connected, please upload your burden of SIN through the REPENTANCE procedure. Next, download ATONEMENT from the Repair Technician, Jesus, into the heart component.

No matter how big or small the SIN defect is, Jesus will replace it
with:
[a] Love
Joy
[c] Peace
[d] Patience
[e] Kindness
[f] Goodness
[g] Faithfulness
[h] Gentleness
Self-control

Please see the operating manual, HOLY BIBLE, for further details on the use of these fixes. As an added upgrade, the Manufacturer has made available to all repaired units a facility enabling direct monitoring and assistance from a resident Maintenance Technician, the Holy Ghost.

Repaired units need only make Him welcome and He will take up permanent residence on the premises!

Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: JudyB on February 25, 2004, 01:36:31 PM
As a child growing up in Toronto we were surrounded by fields.  When I was wee, I remember going through the fields to "that girl's" house.  That girl was our cousin, Ruthie's sister Lorraine.  Through the years I have always felt a bond of friendship with Lorraine.  Another dear friend was Beverly.  In recent emails, including one attached to the previous post of mine, we have kept up to date.  She is not well as well her husband Bob has been very ill.  I have invited Bev to join us here.  Bev is a Minister and has services in 2 churches.  Please lift her up in prayer as her burden is heavy.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Janet on February 25, 2004, 01:37:57 PM

This is from Chicken Soup for the Soul..........good story!

Banking at It's Best
By Sharon Borjesson
When my son was a young teenager, he and his friend set out on a bus across town to purchase skateboard axles. They each had $20. When they arrived downtown, they discovered they needed more money to cover bus fare and sales tax. They were short $3.75.

A branch of our bank was nearby, so they decided to go in and take out a loan. The teller told them that was not possible, but that they could get a cash advance on their parents' credit card. So they called home, but got no answer. They tried the teller again to see if anything more could be done. She referred them to the desk of the vice president. When he asked why the bank should give them a loan, they answered, "Because we're Boy Scouts and good students, and very trustworthy." He said that since they had no collateral, they would have to write out and sign an IOU. They did, and he in turn gave them the money they needed to complete their mission.

We found out later that this wonderful man lent the boys his own money. (My husband called him the next day asking for the same terms on a home loan!) In talking with the man, we learned that he had made many such loans, including a large one to a Navy wife whose allotment was delayed. He said he's been repaid almost 100 percent of the time, and that the opportunity to help others in this way was one of the most rewarding parts of his job.

My son and his friend hopped on the bus the very next morning. They paid off their loan and received their IOU signed by the vice president. It was banking at its best.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: JudyB on February 25, 2004, 01:42:17 PM
I am leaving here shortly to meet up with my friends to go to Sudbury.  I will be back to give a report.  

I have asked Bonnie to come and look after the girls, as I feel being gone that long will overwhelm Melaura.  The girls do like to push, But having her arrive will be a benefit.

A sad site this day.  2 dead skinned beavers left for the dogs to eat.  One an adult one a baby.  We have a beaver pond on our property, and it appears someone is poaching.  This is sad.

Well soon time to leave so Bye for now,
Love Judy.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Pat on February 25, 2004, 02:00:10 PM
Quote from: Lee Kirkwood on February 25, 2004, 12:23:21 PM
You made mention that you've heard that 80% of Americans are Christians.  I don't doubt you heard it, but I strongly disagree with the poll, as Jesus has said that "Few" will enter the kingdom of heaven."  The 80% most likely comes from a secular source who believes everyone who isn't a Jew, Muslim, Shinto, etc.  Actually, church goers are in the minority and most folks stay home on Sunday.

I agree Lee...  For sure 80% of Americans --OR CANADIANS are not Christians who have put their trust in our Saviour.


Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Pat on February 25, 2004, 02:07:01 PM

Well, I was at the doctor this morning so had a very late start at the computer.

Lots to read here.  I love the little devotionals that people put in.  Great "product recall", Judy!

Now, Larry, drive safely.  Travelling mercies to you and it will be so nice that you can check in while you're gone.

I have a friend dropping in in a few minutes so can't stay on here long.

Got your photo, Jenny.  Will work on posting that later.  If you don't see it, holler!  So busy!

There are many I haven't addressed but please forgive this time.

Hi Ria!  Hope that toe is better soon.

Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: karmat on February 25, 2004, 02:16:27 PM
Hello all!  

Another comment regarding "The Passion of the Christ."  One college prof. from near hear made the statement that it was fine that he (Gibson) had made a movie about the crucifixion, but the important part of the story was the resurrection.

I thought about that, and I think I disagree.  Let's consider for the briefest of moments that Jesus did not rise again.  You know what that would mean.  That would mean that he died for me.  His death shed the blood to pay for my sins.  The resurrection was like icing on the cake.  That was the public "stomp" to satan.  Had Jesus not risen, satan still would have lost because the blood would have been shed.  "Without the shedding of blood, there would be no remission of sins."  

The conception of Christ and the resurrection of Christ were supernatural.  His death was human, and therein I can relate to Him and He to me.  

My thoughts, anyway.

There is a lot of "stuff" that is negative being said about Gibson and the movie.  Something we need to remember is that it is a depiction (albeit a fairly accurate ones according to many of the well-known Christian leaders) of one of the most important events in our history and lives.  It is not the movie's job to evangelize and set America on its head in a great revival.  It is simply telling the story of the crucifixion, great as it is.  IT IS OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR UNSAVED NEIGHBORS CAN SEE THE LOVE OF CHRIST THAT IS PORTRAYED IN THE MOVIE BY LOOKING AT OUR LIVES AND HOW WE LOVE THEM.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: joyce robson on February 25, 2004, 02:49:10 PM
Oh, how wonderful to come back and see Karmet.

The first posting that I read and I say:

A BIG AMEN.

I like your thinking; I am going around and play
"catch up" since I've been gone.

Take care and

Love in Christ,

Joyce

P.S. We, at work, have been reading the accounts of the way the movie has affected many(they sat through the previews ) and I think it is great --just what the country needs--a great spiritual revival--Let's go with it and do as Karmet says "spread HIS love " show others by our actions .

Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Chris & Margit Saunders on February 25, 2004, 03:37:18 PM
Karmat, you'r doctrine is very amiss there lass, without Jesus rising from the dead there would be no  resurrection,  no afterlife, and the forgiveness of sins would be useless! think about it.
love Chris :)
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Jenny on February 25, 2004, 03:48:08 PM



Judy B.

So saddened by the dreadful act against the two Beavers on your property and  on this day when you had intended a joyous occasion.

I do pray that the perpetrators will be found and prevented from doing this again.  It must be frightening for your family, on your own doorstep, so to speak and when John is away also.

Jenny.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: karmat on February 25, 2004, 03:52:13 PM
I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying;  Iam not trying to put this forward as any kind of doctrine.

It was the shedding of blood that bought my forgiveness.  With his death, that payment was made.   I'm not saying there shouldn't have been a resurrection (or, heaven forbid, that there wasn't one), I'm simply saying that by Jesus' death, and the shedding of the blood,  Satan was defeated, though he thought he had won.  The resurrection sealed that.

Many people do not want to face the ugliness of the crucifixion.  It makes them uncomfortable, it makes them squemish, it convicts them.  To me, knowing that Christ suffered and died like that, resurrection or no, shows the ultimate sacrifice.  He loved me enough to die for me.

Obviously, there would be no ressurection without the resurrection, but why no afterlife?  (This is an honest question, not an arguing one).

I still don't agree with the professor that the resurrection was the important part of the story.  Without the death, there could be no resurrection.  And if Jesus had simply laid down and died, there would have been no sacrifice and no blood.  The best part, though, is that the story doesn't end there.  He did rise again.

I read/heard something on time that went something like this --

Jesus was born in a manger. PERIOD
He live on this earth as a man. PERIOD
He was a great teacher, prophet, and miracle worker. PERIOD
He was rejected, scorned, and humiliated by his friends and enemies. PERIOD
He was given the mockery of a trial and sentenced to die by crucifixion.  PERIOD
He died on a cruel cross, COMMA

(I guess you have to kinda like punctuation and grammar and stuff to really like that little anecdote :P)
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Chris & Margit Saunders on February 25, 2004, 04:02:15 PM
Yes, Sister, but the two the "death and resurrection" MUST go together. :)
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Al Moak on February 25, 2004, 06:57:10 PM
I don't think there's much value in pitting one against the other - the resurrection and the Crucifixion.  According to God's Word, they happened.  They are accomplished.  Because of the Resurrection, the Holy Spirit has come in a new and wonderful way to dwell within us.  Because of our Lord's death, sin has been dealt its final blow.  Praise God for both!

Marilyn just called me and asked me to tell y'all that they are still without power up in her neighborhood (lots of wind last night), so that's why she's not been here.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Pat on February 25, 2004, 06:59:34 PM
Quote from: Al Moak on February 25, 2004, 06:57:10 PM
Marilyn just called me and asked me to tell y'all that they are still without power up in her neighborhood (lots of wind last night), so that's why she's not been here.

Thanks Al...  I was wondering if she was out of power.  How is she cooking I wonder?  I'm sure glad it's not as cold there as it is here!  
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Ruthie on February 25, 2004, 07:04:02 PM
Hi Everyone...Because I posted so late last night I would like to post again about something very important that happened to me.

Last night my EE team and I went knocking on doors.  We came to a young fellow who believed in evolution and wasn't sure about anything.  At one point he even said he didn't want to live in this world that was so terrible.  He said people say they care about each other and then they separate and leave each other.  So I believe he has had some very sad and disappointing things happen to him.   He originally came from the Dominican Republic.  After 1 1/2 hours of standing in the doorway and praying that no one would come past us to interrupt us, he decided that he wanted what we were offering.  I asked him to step out into the hall.   We clarified what was involved to accept Christ and he then said a prayer and said YES TO JESUS!  He wanted Him in his heart and life.    

His name is ANYOLFI and I would like my dear friends on CP to pray that Satan will not snatch away the seed that was sown in his heart and that he will begin to grow as a baby Christian.   Of course we are trying to get him into the church and the youth group.  We will give him a Bible and talk about prayer and fellowship with other believers.

Thank you dear friends.  God bless

Love Ruthie  
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Pat on February 25, 2004, 07:25:32 PM


Thanks Ruthie for posting again about your very exciting evening.  We'll definitely be praying for these folks.

Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Pat on February 25, 2004, 07:25:57 PM


I had a request for this song.



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BIND US TOGETHER, LORD[/b] (http://christianphotographers.com/sounds/Bind_us_together_Lord.mid)



Bind us together, Lord
bind us together,
with cords that cannot be broken.
Bind us together, Lord,
bind us together,
bind us together with love.


There is only one God,
there is only one King
there is only one Body
xthat is why we sing:
Bind us together, Lord ...


Made for the glory of God,
purchased by his precious Son,
born with the right to be clean,
for Jesus the victory has won.
Bind us together, Lord ...


You are the family of God,
you are the promise divine,
you are God's chosen desire,
you are the glorious new wine.
Bind us together, Lord ...




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Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Judy McKenna on February 25, 2004, 08:16:08 PM
Oh., I love that piece, Pat.  Perhaps it was me that requested it... I know that Jenny was talking about it a few days ago.,and i was humming it all evening.

Ria... my husband had the "sleep test" at the hospital due to his annoying snoring.  He now wears an apparatus, because he was diagnosed with sleep apnea.  That can be very serious, and can cause heart problems.  Perhaps your husband should be checked out!

Etta Sue:  That was a lovely site.  It took quite awhile to run through, but the pictures were really beautiful. Thank you for posting that clickable.

Larry:  I'm so sorry that your daughter's car is causing so much expense.  Safe driving to Florida., and we look forward to seeing your posts from there.

I haven't decided if I will see Mel Gibson's movie.  There sure is a lot of discussion about it on the radio.  both pro and con.

Today is my grandson, Wade's 11th birthday.  He told me that he had his favourite meal....lobster.  Goodness, I can remember when his favourite meal was a hot dog!  The kid has expensive tastes!
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Pat on February 25, 2004, 08:31:47 PM
Quote from: Judy McKenna on February 25, 2004, 08:16:08 PM
Oh., I love that piece, Pat.  Perhaps it was me that requested it... I know that Jenny was talking about it a few days ago.,and i was humming it all evening.


Glad you like that, Judy!





QuoteToday is my grandson, Wade's 11th birthday.  He told me that he had his favourite meal....lobster.  Goodness, I can remember when his favourite meal was a hot dog!  The kid has expensive tastes!

HAHAHA!  That's funny!  I don't think my kids had tasted when they were 11!  


Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Sonifo on February 25, 2004, 08:41:47 PM
I said I was going to the movie "the passion of christ" and I remembered I can't, I have dance tonight.  We will plan to go on Friday as a family.  Well the girls will go to a sitter.

I am getting ready to go...just wanted to tell you all.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Melaura on February 25, 2004, 08:47:00 PM
QuoteMy old companions, fare you well,
I will not go with you to hell;
I mean with Jesus Christ to dwell,
I will go.
--Newton

Auntie Pat I learned i science that Newton was a Christian but I didn't belive it but now I do Thank you.

Zac I have never been to a superchic(k) concert although I wish I have.

TTFN

Melaura (not Melora lol lol lol rotfl lol lol lol)
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Ruth on February 25, 2004, 08:58:35 PM




Ruthie: It is a joyful song to hear that someone has opened their heart and lives to the Lord.

JudyB: It to will be a grand day when all of your home maintenance issues are taken care of.

Pat:  Thanks for the devotiion and the hymns as well I will be praying for safety as you travel tomorrow.

A friend and her husband are going this evening to see the The Passion of Christ so I am anxious to hear their view. And also from the others here as well.

Have a great evening.
Ruth

Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Heather Brunet on February 25, 2004, 10:08:53 PM
I received this in my email this evening....and thought that some of you would want to read it as well.

QuotePretty lengthy, but worth the read.

Paul Harvey's words:

I really did not know what to expect. I was thrilled to have been invited to a private viewing of Mel Gibson's film "The Passion," but I had also read all the cautious articles and spin. I grew up in a Jewish town and owe much of my own faith journey to the influence. I have a life long, deeply held aversion to anything that might even indirectly encourage any form of anti-Semitic thought, language or actions.

I arrived at the private viewing for "The Passion," held in Washington, DC and greeted some familiar faces. The environment was typically Washingtonian, with people greeting you with a smile but seeming to look beyond you, having an agenda beyond the words. The film was very briefly introduced, without fanfare, and then the room darkened.

From the gripping opening scene in the Garden of Gethsemane, to the very human and tender portrayal of the earthly ministry of Jesus, through the betrayal, the arrest, the scourging, the way of the cross, the encounter with the thieves, the surrender on the Cross, until the final scene in the empty tomb, this was not simply a movie; it was an encounter, unlike anything I have ever experienced.

In addition to being a masterpiece of film-making and an artistic triumph, "The Passion" evoked more deep reflection, sorrow and emotional reaction within me than anything since my wedding, my ordination or the birth of my children. Frankly, I will never be the same. When the film concluded, this "invitation only" gathering of "movers and shakers" in Washington,DC were shaking indeed, but this time from sobbing. I am not sure there was a dry eye in the place.

The crowd that had been glad-handing before the film was now eerily silent. No one could speak because words were woefully inadequate. We had experienced a kind of art that is a rarity in life, the kind that makes heaven touch earth.

One scene in the film has now been forever etched in my mind. A brutalized, wounded Jesus was soon to fall again under the weight of the cross. His mother had made her way along the Via Della Rosa. As she ran to him, she flashed back to a memory of Jesus as a child, falling in the dirt road outside of their home. Just as she reached to protect him from the fall, she was now reaching to touch his wounded adult face. Jesus looked at her with intensely probing and passionately loving eyes (and at all of us through the screen) and said "Behold I make all things new." These are words taken from the last Book of the New Testament, the Book of Revelation.

Suddenly, the purpose of the pain was so clear and the wounds, that earlier in the film had been so difficult to see in His face, His back, indeed all over His body, became intensely beautiful. They had been borne voluntarily for love.

At the end of the film, after we had all had a chance to recover, a question and answer period ensued. The unanimous praise for the film, from a rather diverse crowd, was as astounding as the compliments were effusive. The questions included the one question that seems to follow this film, even though it has not yet even been eleased. "Why is this film considered by some to be 'anti-Semitic?" Frankly, having now experienced (you do not "view" this film) "the Passion" it is a question that is impossible to answer. A law professor whom I admire sat in front of me. He raised his hand and responded "After watching this film, I do not understand how anyone can insinuate that it even remotely presents that the Jews killed Jesus. It doesn't." He continued "It made me realize that my sins killed Jesus"

I agree. There is not a scintilla of anti-Semitism to be found anywhere in this powerful film. If there were, I would be among the first to decry it. It faithfully tells the Gospel story in a dramatically beautiful, sensitive and profoundly engaging way. Those who are alleging otherwise have either not seen the film or have another agenda behind their protestations.

This is not a "Christian" film, in the sense that it will appeal only to those who identify themselves as followers of Jesus Christ. It is a deeply human, beautiful story that will deeply touch all men and women. It is a profound work of art. Yes, its producer is a Catholic Christian and thankfully has remained faithful to the Gospel text; if that is no longer acceptable behavior than we are all in trouble. History remands that we remain faithful to the story and Christians have a right to tell it. After all, we believe that it is the greatest story ever told and that its message is for all men and women. The greatest right is the right to hear the truth.

We would all be well advised to remember that the Gospel narratives to which "The Passion" is so faithful were written by Jewish men who followed a Jewish Rabbi whose life and teaching have forever changed theh istory of the world. The problem is not the message but those who have distorted it and used it for hate rather than love. The solution is not to censor the message, but rather to promote the kind of gift of love that is Mel Gibson's filmmaking masterpiece, "The Passion." It should be seen by as many people as possible. I intend to do everything I can to make sure that is the case.

I am passionate about "The Passion." Please copy this and send it on to all your friends to let them know about this film so that all go see it when it comes out.

P.S. From Julie: My daughter, Kristin, tells me they learned at her church Youth Group that Mel Gilbson stated he did not appear in his own movie, by his choice, with one exception: It is Gibson's hands seen nailing Jesus to the cross. Gibson said he wanted to do that because it was indeed his own hands that nailed Jesus to the cross.


Ronald J. Mitchell Jr.

Any comments?

Heather
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Papa John on February 25, 2004, 10:10:56 PM

I have enjoyed reading all the posts today.  We just got back from our Wednesday night Bible study.  We had an interesting discussion of some of the attributes of David which made him a man after God's own heart.

Al is correct in saying that we do not pit one against the other, the crucifixion and the resurrection.  The good news includes both of these great events.

1 Cor 15:1-4
1   Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand.
2   By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3   For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
4   that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,  (NIV)

The gospel which Paul preached and by which we are saved is that Christ died for our sins, that he was buried, and that he was raised on the third day.

I hope you all have a good night's rest.

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--- Papa John    <:))))><<
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Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Marilyn on February 25, 2004, 10:44:17 PM

Hi Y-all I am now with power finally at 7:45 pm. I won't have time to catch up with everythng from last nught until now at the moment but will try to get caught by tomorrow night.I have a busy day tomorrow..
Going to do some reading on here now for awhile.
Pat my stove is gas and I could light it with a lighter since the electrobic ignition wouldn't work,.

TTYL
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Mullet on February 25, 2004, 10:50:12 PM
Hello everyone!

Just stopping in to say Hi while I'm here. I do not have that mech to talk about though.
have a nice night

Zachery
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Lee Kirkwood on February 25, 2004, 11:06:51 PM
Good evening brothers and sisters in Christ........

Vivian and I just arrived home after seeing "The Passion of Christ."  I could have much to say about this great film, and the last hours of our Lord.  I will say this.  After the film was over a few people got up from their seats and started to slowly walk to the rear.  Many stood at their seats, and just as many remained in their seats.  There was dead silence, and no one spoke at any time until they were out of the theater.  Yes, there were tears in everyone's eyes, bt they all seemed to be in a state of wonderment and awe.  I know I was.  The brutality was horrific, and you would swear you were there in in person.  The young man selected for the part was absolutely PERFECT.  The man who played the part of Pilate was a great actor, and you really felt sorry for him being in-between Ceasar and the Jews.  I know, we aren't supposed to be, but that's how it works out.  There was too much Mary, and I'll leave it there.  The director took dramatic license in several parts of the film, but they didn't hurt the film.  Neither Vivian nor myself have any idea as to how carnal man will react to the film, other than what's been said on TV already.    As a Christian I said this during the film....And you went through this for me.  I praised God for my salvation.  Even though we all knew what He went through for us, we were stunned at the horror of it.  Go see it.
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Ruthie on February 25, 2004, 11:49:28 PM

Goodnight everyone...I have an early day tomorrow.   Will comment about the movie tomorrow.  Have a wonderful Thursday.  

Love Ruthie
Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Pat on February 25, 2004, 11:52:35 PM

Very interesting reading about your visit to the film tonight, Lee.  Thanks for that.

Title: Re:New Every Morning~February 25
Post by: Pat on February 25, 2004, 11:58:42 PM


Time to go to bed here in Guelph!

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