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Pat................

Quote"I'd especially love to hear your thoughts on this part of the devotional today.  What does it mean to "rise up and disassociate ourselves from the earth...." ??

Pat, I believe you've brought-up the most challenging command in the Bible from our Lord.  The comments and heart felt beliefs from others in this forum have come from people who walk with the Lord and are trying their best to honor Him.  I've learned from what their hearts are saying.  Please bare with me while I give another perspective.

I believe that a Christian must be out of the circle of the world, and should be seen as being someone the world wants nothing to do with.  We are set apart from the world by God, because we are 'Followers" of the Lord, a person the world hates.  If we are [one of the guys] of this world, we are NOT seperated from them.  This does not mean that we should not be setting an example of who we are and who we represent.  Never let it be said, but we must always move about the world as the children of God.  In so doing, we must do all we can to evangelize those about us because they are lost and are going to hell.

Take the church for instance.  Some obey the commands of God and "preach the Word", while others disregard the gospels and want to bring people in to entertain them.  Sunday services is not for entertainment, it is for Christians to worship through singing, prayer, and sound doctrine.  The church today has many false teachers, and their congregations are hearing things of man, and little of the Lord Jesus Christ.  NO I am not, nor do I believe in legalism, but I do believe in God's holy Word without the worlds influencing it with man's partial truths.  A half truth is nothing other than a lie. The world does not belong in the church, but we belong IN the world, preaching His truths.  I ask, don't love me because I'm like you.  Love me because you want to be like me, because I am a follower of Jesus Christ. That's a tough road for all Christians to follow.  All passenger ships are on a journey.  I want only to be a ship used of God to gather passengers on my journey through life.

I apologize for the quotes, but I haven't the time to try and fix it.


Fixed it, Lee!

What powerful responses to Pat's question.

I am just going to sit by and re-read the postings; Nard, Al , Lee what great insight.

This surely is a personal feeling among us all; look at the other responses each so well thought out and posted.

You are lifting my spirits today with your postings.

thank you all,

Take care and as always,

Love in CHrist,

Joyce

Pat about your devotional this morning it is to difficult
for me to translate and writen in English.
BUT I CAN FIND MYSELF IN THE WORDS OF ETTA SUE
ALSO NARDS 656  HIS WORDS I LIKE

I have read the news about little Cecilia and i am sad
that she is not back poor parents and poor child
I keep here in my prayers

I wish you all a good afternoon and evening in Holland it is 7.10PM
Bye Ria

Hi Pat........I'm home for a few minutes and read the devotional.   You asked what "rise up from the earth" means.  Remember Saul was smitten and fell down to the earth.   When he got up there was a big change in him.   Later his name was changed to Paul.    I believe it means to forget the world (earth) and the things of the world (earth) and be fully devoted to Jesus Christ and He will make a big change in your life and you will walk upright  with Him, the Master.   Only then will we be used of God as we allow Him to change us and walk with Him.   The bible says "We are IN the world, but not OF the world.  


That is my understanding.


Love Ruthie

Hi Lee.....after posting, I read your post and yours and mine are similar.   I believe we are both on track.    What do you think?


God bless



Ruthie

Pat..........

There's your "Lead".  My heart jumped, then saddened when I read in the article........."while police examined the modest three-story house, which has basement rooms rented to students at a nearby college.'

That's the hottest lead  the police have, and you know for certain they are digging into the whereabouts of every student that ever lived with them, including those who may still be there.  Live-in students know (knew) the families every move, and they KNOW the house.  There is another "lead", and that's associates of students who didn't lived there, but learned of the girl, family wealth, etc.  I'd say the trail is very warm.  PLease understand, this is only "Lead" talk.  The trail could go anywhere.

Ruthie.........

You bet we are.  And, we all know that Paul was a hated man wherever he went.  However, Paul was the greatest of evangelist, and still is.  Even though Paul was hated, those whom the Lord called (Those who heard Him) heard Paul, and are still jumping on board his ship.  The worldly have "Jumped Ship" and will sink into the Lake of Fire.  I love a phrase Paul used for all Christians........"Hold Fast".  Our Lord doesn't ask us to bring our baggage with us.  In fact, He asks us to throw away ALL of our old baggage and to come as we are.  

Ria...........

Listen young lady, your writings are beautiful and your heart always comes through.  I may never get to Holland to give you a big hug and Christian kiss, but I will in eternity.


To whomever..........

Thanks for cleaning-up my post.

For golfers.........

Something funny happened yesterday at the golf course.  I went out as a single and was teamed-up with a fella I didn't know.  As we played I asked him where he lived and he told me Sagle, Idaho.  I replied: "Hey, I go to church in Sagle on Gun Club Rd."  He said he has seen it but doesn't go to a church, but he and a few of his friends had put together a home church where they worship.  I asked what do they teach there?  He said he has spoken many times before the group, and doesn't have any particular religious faith.  He said they have had many different speakers; one a Catholic priest, a Rabbi, a Monk, and a couple Buddist, and a minister.  I thought:  This poor guy needs the Lord.  I told him that our church is small and that our pastor not only is loving, but he really teaches the Bible as God had it written.  A couple holes later I was standing over my ball getting ready to make an easy put of three feet.  Just as I brought my putter back to make the forward stroke (my playing partner no more than four feet to my left) gave out with a loud HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.  HAHAHAHA, I missed the putt.  He put a curse on it

Ria

-3 times 9 is 27 divided by 5 is 5.4 take that away from 32 and what you got? 26.6*F.  That is cold dear.  I don't like the cold.  Here is Canada we have our temperature readings in celcius also but the United States read temperature in Farignheit.  We changed over after I had finished school and still think in Farignheit.

Hope that helps.

Love Judy

Nards and Lee I love your responses to todays devotional.  I found it to be similar to what I was trying to say last night, (er this morning).  We are not to be conformed but transformed......

Thankyou for the insight.

I just got the news that John will be home today.  That is great as he has requested Sunday off and that means that we will have a few days to get wood in for the winter.  It is always good to have him home.

Looks like we may have snow before the day is out.  Our bright sunny skys have changed to overcast and heavy.  Well This is the day the Lord has made. I WILL rejoice and be glad.....

till later

JudyB

Sonja,
I just noticed we have something in common, I have a son named Zachary too.. He will be 5 in Janaury.
Will be praying for you today-get some rest later.
Hugs
Rachelle

LEE YAG ALSKADAY
 
But do you all understand that it is difficult for me sometimes to write in English what of i am thinking in
Dutch.
That is the reason i have read all your answers and that i can find me in the words of Etta Sue and Nards565

But i love you all
and i love it to be with you on CP.
RIA

Hi Everyone again
Karmat its nice to meet you..
I am excited today-last week I joined weight watchers and weighed in this morning. I lost 4.4 lbs..Yippeee
Jumping for Joy!
Just wanted to share my good news
Hello to all of my new friends.

Lee I am still laughing at the golf story.  Did you ever find out what the Hummmmmmmmm meant?  Was it cause he was thinking about what you said?  It would be good to know that he is thinking.

It is Just +4 with the sun on the thermometer.  The girls have gone to pick up the mail, and as they were leaving they were griping that it was cold.  They willingly left though so the fresh air will do them good.

They have finished school for the day and have chosen to do some of the "fun" subjects like health and more science.  They have cut and pasting to do in health, cutting out foods to go with the vitamins and minerals.  

Till later.
JudyB

I really enjoyed reading through the various thoughts on Pat's devotional today.

Nards656 - truly uplifted by your thoughts bro. keep them coming. I like your photo!

'Dad at work!'

There was a special Christian man living on our Island a number of years ago and he was called 'Happy Norman.' His personal Christian witness was quite remarkable and there is no doubt that he had a 'special' relationship with His Saviour.

He always had a word for ther lost and a word of encouragement for his brothers and sisters in Christ. He was loved and held with a special affection by both young and old, though he had a few critics.

One such critic wrote of Norman, 'he was too heavenly minded to be of any earthly use.!

I truly wish that I was more heavenly minded than what I am. If manna falls my way in the morning then I will gladly share it with you.

Great to see you Jenny, hope you are getting over your bug.

Ria - dear sis, your English is better than mine! You are an 'English Maestro' now!

Joyfulhrt - Welcome sis to you and your family. I would recommend Dell machines to anyone who asks me. I still have work to do on mine but I am getting there!

I do not want to speak too soon!

Take care folks and God bless you all.

Your brother in Christ

Iain

Iain  thank you for your lovely words about me

Now have i read what you all have writen when it was night in HOLLAND

Lee you have heard what Judy B has say about me I AM PEACEFULL AND THAT I AM
and i also love your words every day

But it is 10.20 i close my computer
I wish you all a good evening and night.
It will be a cold night in Holland -3*C
Love for your all
Till tomorrow
RIA

Hi to all of you today! Just a short note to let you know that I will be back soon; after numerous tests, they have decided that I have fluid build up in my eye, and, as I re-absorb that fluid, my vision will returen, Praises and Thanks to our Lord! I so thansk all of you for your prayers; my husband does read some of the posts to me, but he has no time to do them all. I hope I have not made too many mistakes, and I will be back soon! I love all of you, and wish you a blessed day!
Love in Him,
Cami  

Quote from: Pat Scott on October 23, 2003, 01:37:59 AM

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If we are going to effectively serve the Lord, we must rise up and disassociate ourselves from the earth and all its defiling influences to serve the Lord in purity and love.

I'd especially love to hear your thoughts on this part of the devotional today.  What does it mean to "rise up and disassociate ourselves from the earth...." ??

I'm looking forward to your thoughts.

I know there are some religions that don't believe people should dance. And my photography, I really love. Is that something of this earth?  I really enjoy these things and if I didn't have them I would go crazy.  I really don't think God minds that I love and enjoy these hobbies as long as I don't put him on the back burner.

Hi Cami!  Good to hear you are doing better and will recover.  

Sonya

This is the liberty we have in Jesus Christ.  We are not under the law but under Grace.  Because of His Grace we have freedom to do things that are different from others.  You see as long as we obey His KNOWN (in the Bible) will then we can work on knowing his unknown will.  If you have a clear pathway of communication between you and your Saviour then who is anyone else to say what you do is wrong.  Your Photo's glorify God, as you show His creation.  You dance before God in the joy he has given.  What is wrong with that?  I have a phrase that I use a lot.  Other's may I may not.  There are things you may do, that I may have a problem with.  The activity is not the problem it is what we do with the activity.  The warning I receive is Do not touch....  I know it is God's voice.  So keep the communion open and go where he leads.

I love you sis.

JudyB

Sonja:  Did I read correctly - is Zachery having "Remicade" infusions?  If so for what?

Reason I ask i, because this is what I have, every 6 weeks., for me its because I have R.A.  I'm wondering if Zachery has that or Crohns'.

Hope you don't mind me asking.,

- Judy

Quote from: Judy McKenna on October 23, 2003, 05:00:07 PM
Sonja:  Did I read correctly - is Zachery having "Remicade" infusions?  If so for what?

Reason I ask i, because this is what I have, every 6 weeks., for me its because I have R.A.  I'm wondering if Zachery has that or Crohns'.

Hope you don't mind me asking.,

- Judy

Yes, Zachery has Crohnes disease and colitis.  He has to have this done every 6 weeks.  This is his 4th infusion.  He did very well today. Didn't have a reaction so we are looking good.  Just hope it helps this time.  Thanks for your consern.    He also has arthitis but is doing much better after going to phys. therapy.  

Here I am at Ruthie's house in Toronto.  Boy!  The traffic is terrible on the 401 today.  It took me just over 2 hours to get here!  We're leaving soon to go to the restaurant for supper.

I'll be back later.

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Talk to you later...

Just poppin' in to say "HI!"  I probably should take this time to be doing that housework thing, since Capt. Destructo is taking a nap.  I had it fairly straight, but then he went through again.    I keep telling myself someday I will miss the cheerios and raisins on the floor, the toys everywhere, the sippy cups everywhere,e tc. etc.  
He really is a doll.  Just a messy one.  

Rachelle -- I, too, am a member of WW (sortof -- I pay money to them every month ).  I lost 4 or 5 pounds the first week, gained two the second, then lost one or two each week for about 4 months.  With the exception of a pound or two, I have kept it off for 8 months now.  I keep telling myself I will start back, adn I need to.  Maybe we can encourage each other.

hey ya'll
I've been looking in since i got home been busy with house work, meetings, practices, and lots of other stuff   during basketball i rolled my ankle which wasn't fun b/c now it's going to swell agian   it wasn't too bad i was still able to run!i don't know if that was a good thing or bad!so anyways i'm here just not talkitive like ya'll are!
Sarah

Karmat I would love to encourage one another in the weight loss struggle..I am going to really try and do good this week-it isnt an easy road to walk-but through Christ we can  do all things..He is our strength..
Hugs
Rachelle

Sonja ~ I am with JudyB...The activity is not the problem it is what we do with the activity.  I think of two women with a bathing suit on.  One is vulgar, the other isn't.  It isn't the bathing suit...it is the actions in the bathing suit.  Same as movies...one sees negative views, another sees positive views.  TV...same thing.  Even churches.  One has contemporary music, another has old hymns.  It is all in where our hearts are.  And who is in our hearts.

I have two left feet and I can't carry a tune in a bucket but I love to watch people dancing and listen to people sing.  BTW, we had a high school student that danced lyric ballet to Christian music during worship hour sometimes.  It was mesmerizing.  She is now in England doing missionary work.  Maybe if I had become a Christian many years ago, I wouldn't agree with dancing in church but I do.

Thank you, Ria, for putting me in the same class as Nard with our posts this morning.  I really appreciate that.  Very encouraging.  I consider myself still in primary school learning the Word of God since I am still a new Christian.  I was baptized March 14, 1998, on my mother's 85th birthday.

Ivalou and I went to the China Buffet.  Then we stopped by where she got her cell phone.  We are both illiterate in operating it so she asked the guy a few questions and now she knows what to do.  Then we went to her son's house to get Parker.  He is going to stay with Ivalou through Sunday.  Like Ivalou says...someday he will think he is too big to spend time with Grandma so she is going to enjoy him while she can.  We stopped at the grocery to get somethings for Parker to eat.  I do believe he picked out a lot of stuff that his own Mother would say No to but you know Grandma's....Ivalou got them for him.  No wonder he likes going to Grandma's house....

Now it is time to what else there is on this site....

Everyone have a God Blessed Day/Evening/Night/Morning!!!

Thank you Etta Sue.  I was hoping I was on track..... There were concerns in this camp, because of all the man made rules and do's and dont's.  

Checked yesterday's posts and there I am...thanks for a good job Pat.  See, in this case, less is definately more!

Sonja, I love the dancing figure, it is sweet.  I am so sorry about Zachery and his illness.  With a Mom like you, he will have the courage to never give up the battle.

About divorce...touching on a nerve there.  I divorced my husband when the children were small, after many years of a terrible life.  Was not a Christian until later, but would still do the same thing today.  Three of his later wives seem to agree....Life is never simple or black and white.  

The devotional certainly does inspire deep thoughts.  It is my stand that we are to resist the influences of the world and try to follow as God leads.  What we do reveals what we believe, no matter how we try to influence with words.  What we believe will determine how we live.  That is what other people see, both believers and non-believers.  As I once stated before, I do my best to walk the talk....Have found that obedience can be costly if we follow our Lord.  One has to be prepared to pay that price in the world and rest on the promises of God.

God Bless.  Liz