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Lee,
Margit and I both suffered aching necks, until we tried buckwheat pillows, now we wouldn't be without them,,, oh boy  this sounds just like an oldtime advert!
But seriously they are great.

BTW, in the church fraternity at large, Fundamentalists feel that the Evangelicals are selling out  their beliefs for the sake of "Ecumenicalism," a very bad word! lol.



Eddie, always remember that when Moses killed the Egyptian he was 40 yrs old, he did very little for the next 40 yrs, then came the burning bush, God called him to work, so his ministery didn't actually begin at all until he was 80 yrs young, the rest of the time was just preparation for the great task, " let My people go."


http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/o/l/oldtimew.htm

NARDS:  Very interesting definitions.....I'm gonna have to change what I call myself.

Since I became a christian, I have referred myself as being a fundamentalist...because BC (before Christ) I belonged to a very liberal church.

When I reversed my direction, I thought that now instead of being a liberal, I was a fundamentalist.

I realize now that I am really an evangelistism (or whatever the correct word is)

I believe in becoming involved w/other evangelistic churches.  I don't believe that my denomination is the only true church.

My feeling is that Heaven contains a lot of people that others (myself included) twas thought would not qualify for entrance.

And I am sure that there are souls in Heaven that will be surprised to see me and others who do not fit "their profile of a Christian."  

But, then if those in heaven know everything (and they do)...they will know that we are coming.

Hmmm, I still don't know what I am.  Guess it doesn't matter.  

Chris, I've never heard that hymn before!  It's lovely too and what great words!

Thanks!  I think I might have it in one of Jack's old hymn books though.  I think he has an old Alexander's Hymn somewhere and it seems that this fellow wrote several hymns for that book.

Thanks again.

I don't know where I would fit, either, Karma.  The important thing, so far as I'm concerned, is not denomination or title - it's the fact that Jesus died for me and rose again to open the portals of Heaven so that I can someday join Him.  And the fact that all my sins are covered by His blood and are known no more.

Yes, you are right Jeanne,I was just reading 2nd Timothy ch 2 v 14-26.
We know the Lord Jesus as our Saviour and our Lord, amen.

Pat, there is one thing I like about hymns,
there are usually plenty of verses, so that you don't need to sing them over and over!
Hahaaaaaaaa
ps, We've just listened to Pastor Adrian Rogers preach on Matthew 24, the end times, what a great preacher he is!
I always make copious notes while listening, and I dont do that with many, lol.

GOTCHA!

PAT thank you for the nice hymn
JESUS PAID IT ALL very good.

CHRIS thank you for the nice hymns that is a very good site.

FAST EDDIE i love your words we in Holland  we are thinking others
we only say also i  i try to be a good Christian i say that have i also say this morning MY GOD AND MY LORD
Jesus is died on the cross for me He is my Saviour
and that i believe and we will be surprised when we see where there are in Heaven.

I am Dutch and Dutch people are common sence
I am in Dutch we say Gereformeerd i think that have i ask my aunt in Canada that is Christian Reformed.

And you all must take me as i am.

I wish you all a very goodnight
Bye love Ria

Quote from: Jeanne Lee on February 16, 2004, 04:19:08 PM
I don't know where I would fit, either, Karma.  The important thing, so far as I'm concerned, is not denomination or title - it's the fact that Jesus died for me and rose again to open the portals of Heaven so that I can someday join Him.  And the fact that all my sins are covered by His blood and are known no more.

That's a great point, Jeanne.  One thing to keep in mind is that these are typically "ecclesiastical" titles, meaning that they apply to the church, rather than the individual.  If you find yourself in disagreement with the direction and teaching of your church, it is normally likely that you will move on to one more in line with your beliefs.  Normally, Evangelicals wouldn't frequent Fundamentalist churches, even if they didn't understand the difference.  And vice versa.  

Denomination is indeed not important, but sometimes being challenged to define what we believe can make us "dig a little deeper" and wind up in better fellowship with God as a result.  

It can also leave us less confused when the media (religious OR secular) talk about the "Fundamentalists" versus the "Evangelicals" at the Southern Baptist Convention, or wherever the battleground may be on a given day.  

It really is all about Jesus and telling your neighbor about Him...  (Just saying that is mildly Evangelical in nature, though.  Most true Evangelicals don't dwell on the difference in the two, while Fundamentalists are usually fairly quick to bring it up.)

We must remember that the word "Evangel" means "good news," in other words,, the Gospel, hence evangelists, those who bring the  good news,  the gospel of Jesus Christ.

ROMANS 15 : 7 NIV

ACCEPT ONE ANOTHER, THEN JUST AS
CHRIST ACCEPTED YOU, IN ORDER TO BRING
PRAISE TO GOD.

Ria, yes, we are all saved by Grace.

http://junior.apk.net/~bmames/ht0318_.htm

PAT THANK YOU FOR  MAJESTY THIS HYMN HAVE I NEVER HEARD

CHRIS  THANK YOY FOR  SAVED BY GRACE VERY GOOD



BUT NOW I GO REALLY TO BED IN HOLLAND IT IS ONE
HOUR LATER AS IN ENGLAND  IT IS 11.00 PM

GOODNIGHT   RIA

Yes 10 pm here night all.

I just want to clear up what some may have misunderstood - I am NOT talking about evangelists or evangelism.  I am talking about Evangelicals.  It's a completely different issue.  Evangelism is a calling, a ministry.  Evangelicalism is a church type - not a denomination, and most churches don't put it on their sign.  Evangelists may be Fundamentalists, or they may be Evangelicals.  Please don't confuse the two, and please don't accuse me of attacking evangelists.  

I definitely don't want anyone to think that Fundamentalists are not in favor of evangelism.  Quite the opposite.  Many are huge supporters of missions and other evangelistic efforts.  They simply do not join with other denominations in doing so, most of the time.  

The primary difference is Fundamentalists and Evangelicals is their approach to doctrinal differences.  Fundamentalists will say "This is what's right, and to be right, we need to agree with it.  We can't work together until we do."  Evangelicals will say "I believe this, you believe that.  OK, now how can we work together without stepping on each other's toes?"

Often, Fundamentalists and Evangelicals have exactly the same doctrine.  They simply don't agree on how to deal with those who have different doctrine.  

And let's be clear - I personally have NO doubt that both Fundamentalists AND Evangelicals are born-again Christians, as long as they are born-again Christians.  

See, I told y'all it was a can of worms...  I'm not here to argue the points, I'm only trying to explain the differences.  Hope that makes sense.

Ria - We're very glad to take you as you are, sweetie.  We love you dearly, whatever church you call yours.  

That goes for everybody else, too.  

Nards: Thank you very much for your definitions and  what you have written on the differences. I don't know what to call myself. I agree that there are many churchs with different doctrines. These doctrines are interpeted in different ways by each one. The scriptures to back each docrtine and interpeted the way they want to read it.

I believe that if we have confessed Jesus Christ as our Savior, and repented of our sins , accepted Jesus into our hearts, and believe that He is who He says He is, then the denomination make no difference.

I also belive that every church should preach/teach the Word of God, Biblical truths.

I am sure there will be many surprised when we reach heaven to see those that we thought would never make it.

I guess I am naive...I am going to label myself a Christian!!!  Anything else would make me feel above someone else and I certainly am not.  

I was thinking EXACT.  Does people know Greek and Hebrew that are Fundamentalists?

This is too deep for me.  I like to simplify things.  I am thankful for the gift God gave me in Christ, the forgiveness of my sins, the promise of everlasting life, the promise He will be with me each day, the assurance that I am His child and He is my Father.  That's enough for me.

I may not be here in the morning.  I am going to Jerry's and then to the southside of Indy to meet a SrNetter from Minnesota that has been visiting her son at Columbus, Indiana.  I have met her before but Jerry hasn't.

hmmm...interesting discussion.  

I don't know what I am either.  

That is ok.  I am sure what ever I am, God loves me anyway.  

Thanks, Nards for all that info.  I am going to save it.

busy day for us.

Hope you all are having fun today.

Soni

Howdy Nards........

May I disagree with you on one particular point (Could be more ).

True "Fundamentalism" really started with Genesis and carried through to Revelation.  Belief in ALL of God's Word as 100% truth IS "Fundamentalism (2nd Timothy 3:16).  Man in his attempt to bring confusion has introduced finger pointing and degredation directed at "Fundamentalism."  In fact, the World Council of Churches has made "Fundamentalim" a dirty word.  Yep, I agree with you 100%, "Evangelism" and "Evangelical" are positively not the same.

If we should find a brother in Biblical error we must correct him in love WITH the Word only, and not of man.  Either they accept God's written Word (Fundamentalism), or they reject it.  

Very interesting, Nards.  And what I find delightfully interesting is most saying they don't know what they are. haha   I think that's the best place to be.  I simply belong to Jesus.   I think I'm glad I was saved outside of church,  met Jesus and got to know Him before I was in church.  Like others, I guess I'm a little bit of all....and don't call myself either.

I'm with you, Etta Sue.  Child like faith in a loving Father, who can work out all the details.

You've really been studying, huh, Nard?  It's good to find out that you don't know who you are, outside of Christ's. lol

love to all.

 

Just popped in to catch up on the reading and now am off and running again.  Will read again tomorrow.

Night all.

Sonja...........

Sure you do.  If you believe in all of God's Word as (2 Timothy 3:16) has said, then you have a "Fundamental," (and might I add) a sound belief in His truths.  All "Born Again" Christians should have this belief in God's Word.  If you spread the Gospels of God's Word to the lost as one of God's messengers, then you are evangelizing.  The word evangelical has taken on a new meaning within the past 60 years.  If you look-up evangelical in Webster you will find evangelical and evangelism are akin to one another.  This subject is worthy of discussion for discussion sake, but certainly not one to bring concern.

Etta Sue.........

I love your post.  If we can all agree with you and say (When asked what we are)..."I'm a Christian."  That covers it all.

Hello everyone!!!!! How are you all doing today?

Nita did you sign Angel up to CP yet?

Zachery

I'm a fundagelical.  Or perhaps a Evanmentalist.  Or maybe, maybe, maybe.  

Ahh.  This discussion has made me understand some people near and dear to me a lot better.  There are some people who are very clearly one or the other.

Promised Nards I wouldn't be on here long (still have supper dishes to clean and Mary Kay calls to make), so, in the words of the Terminator, "I'll be back."

A very interesting discussion today.  I grew up and was saved by grace in the Baptist Church but since moving to a new location the church has changed its name.

Pat again thanks for all of your hard work and the lovely humns as well.



Ruth

Hi Everyone!

I know I know I haven't posted in a long time, I have been going through some things, and also didn't really feel like I fitted in much here~ but I decided I needed the Christian support and would give it another try-Schooling 3 girls is a big part of my day-and being a Mom and taking care of the house-I also have 3 online ministries and that takes alot of my time..Recently the enemy has really been causing problems with my brand new PC~today they were suppose to replace the mother board, the dvd and cd rom-well the guy came and they sent him the wrong Mother Board and not a DVD Drive~This morning I had trouble getting online-and  then when i finally did I smelt a burning smell..anyway they now are replacing the modem and also the power source too..I hope to get this fixed soon..this pc is only 4 mo. old..I am thankful that I did however get extra warranty on it.
Hugs
Rachelle

Hey Rachelle: hi where have you been?  I see you on line right now, come in and tell us what you have been doing? How is the home schooling going? Bet you been busy Huh?  Well I see that you posted at the same time as I did. Oh well as they say, it is still good to see you here I have missed you sister.